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Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by jscore »

ceejayoz wrote: post #27
jscore wrote: post #11

Hah, I doubt he'll go, I think he'd rather stay in Switzerland or some other 1st world country, than going to Ecuador where he's at mercy of US' interests.

Most developed nations have extradition treaties with the US - and Assange has a good chance of independently pissing them off in the future if he leaks info on them. Wikileaks has already leaked private bank memos, which the Swiss in particular don't take kindly to. Ecuador is no fan of the US, and it tends not to be a very interesting nation from a leaking perspective. It'd be a better choice than most developed na…

If push comes to shove, they'll just use him as a bargaining chip for something they want.

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by igravious »

chadp wrote: post #29
CoachRufus87 wrote: post #6

...thus making the job of finding Assange easier for the hired assassins

Sarah Palin said today that he should be hunted down like Osama bin laden.

Really? You mean with a complete and utter lack of success? Zing!

edit: you know, when someone who is cited as a possible presidential candidate reflexively reaches for an extra-judicial solution to resolve the releasing of state information by a foreign whistleblower then ... what? i don't know, but it's very telling. the road back towards the rule of law is going to be long and difficult one.

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by rdtsc »

rbanffy wrote: post #24
masklinn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As for being childish, the US has done a whole lot to earn that enmity. That's quite an understatement.

Some people have done a lot, sometimes with government support, but those are a tiny minority when compared to the people they represented. You shouldn't judge a people by the actions of their leaders.

You should judge a people if they fancy themsevles a democracy (especially if they think their democracy is so good it deserves to be "exported" to other countries!)

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by rdtsc »

huherto wrote: post #20
redthrowaway wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, you're correct. I was inaccurate with my claim. The antipathy towards the US is much stronger in Central America and the Andean regions (Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, etc) As for being childish, the US has done a whole lot to earn that enmity. I'd recommend reading Open veins of Latin America , by Eduardo Galeano. It's a difficult read, due in no small part to the author's support of the Cuban Revolution and Castro'…

Indeed, there is a lot of hate in the Latin America which is harvested by many politicians for their own political gain.(in the same way that Palin and Co harvest hate against illegal immigrants) One day the U.S. will have to acknowledge to start the healing process. It is amazing, the other day I was watching "The history of the U.S" and they completely skipped how the U.S. took California, Arizona and New Mexico.

You were probably watching "The history of the U.S. made in U.S." and there is the difference between that and the real history of the U.S.

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by jacquesm »

27182818284 wrote: post #32

I don't think Ecuador has the infrastructure to support WikiLeaks. Hosting on a different continent seems scary in this situation where you're pissing off governments.

The offer is to Assange, not to wikileaks, so no infrastructure required.

All it takes to manage wikileaks is ssh access to a bunch of servers hosted all over the place.

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by cabalamat »

rbanffy wrote: post #4
redthrowaway wrote: post #2

Interesting. Ecuador's current government is quite leftist, and very friendly with Chavez, despite close ties to the US. There used to be a huge US naval base in Manta, although it was closed when I was there this summer. While Internet coverage is spotty enough to disuade permanent residence for someone like Assange, I could see him trying to get some support in South American countries. He's helped by two things: T…

> In fact, the one constant in South America is how much they hate the US I am not sure where you have been or what you have experienced, but I wouldn't call it a constant. I never noticed this widespread hatred towards the US you mention in Brazil, Argentina or Chile. I understand most of the northern Latin America may harbor strong negative feelings towards the US, but I can tell you Brazilians really don't care th…

> Besides that, it's really childish to hate a country.

Perhaps, but it's rather mature to hate a country's government, particularly when that government is busily taking away people's freedoms, e.g. with the ACTA treaty.

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by sigstoat »

rdtsc wrote: post #34
rbanffy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people have done a lot, sometimes with government support, but those are a tiny minority when compared to the people they represented. You shouldn't judge a people by the actions of their leaders.

You should judge a people if they fancy themsevles a democracy (especially if they think their democracy is so good it deserves to be "exported" to other countries!)

and should you judge the people if they fancy themselves a federal republic?

Re: Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder Assange residency, no questions asked

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Post by huherto »

rdtsc wrote: post #36
huherto wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, there is a lot of hate in the Latin America which is harvested by many politicians for their own political gain.(in the same way that Palin and Co harvest hate against illegal immigrants) One day the U.S. will have to acknowledge to start the healing process. It is amazing, the other day I was watching "The history of the U.S" and they completely skipped how the U.S. took California, Arizona and New Mexico.

You were probably watching "The history of the U.S. made in U.S." and there is the difference between that and the real history of the U.S.

Sorry for the sloppy reference. I think it was in "The History Channel". They described the American invasion to mexico in about five seconds just showing how the U.S. suddenly grew. The show was very entertaining but skipped on one of the main passages of history.
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