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Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by SubiculumCode »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #20
louthy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[3] is definitely not 40hz. 40hz is in the sub-bass range, which this clearly isn't. I'm not at home in my studio right now, so I can't measure what it is, but if I was to guess it would be around 200hz. The ones that are 20hz might make you feel a bit weird because there's not much amateur audio equipment that would do anything other than distort at that low end of the frequency range. It does say binaural though, s…

Szynalski.com has a page discussing the 40hz/plaque removal. Another tone generator that I've used -- https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/isochronicBrainwaveGenerat... I like binaural beats, some give me an ASMR like effect (ASMR videos made with binaural backgrounds b work well for me too).

That is pretty nice, but i note that they don't reach up to 40hz.

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by samplatt »

jkingsman wrote: post #24

If you feel like bad science and poorly supported practices are up your alley, I build a Chrome extension to flash an overlay on your browser at specifiable frequencies: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gammaloid/lfmaoakh...

Good GOD man, WHY

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by fao_ »

whymauri wrote: post #30
jkingsman wrote: post #24

If you feel like bad science and poorly supported practices are up your alley, I build a Chrome extension to flash an overlay on your browser at specifiable frequencies: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gammaloid/lfmaoakh...

You may want to justify why it is "bad science" and write a letter to the editor of Nature and Nature Protocols. Is the media interpretation of these studies misguided? Sure, but the popular science media is not doing the science. I would be peeved if people called my research "bad science" because some pop. sci. article doesn't understand it.

Nature is hardly the top of the crust these days with regards to academic oversight.

I can recall quite easily that a while back they published an article confirming ESP, and then refused to publish a replication of the same paper stating no results.

Because the first one sells issues and the second one doesn't.

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by mattkrause »

fao_ wrote: post #33
whymauri wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may want to justify why it is "bad science" and write a letter to the editor of Nature and Nature Protocols. Is the media interpretation of these studies misguided? Sure, but the popular science media is not doing the science. I would be peeved if people called my research "bad science" because some pop. sci. article doesn't understand it.

Nature is hardly the top of the crust these days with regards to academic oversight. I can recall quite easily that a while back they published an article confirming ESP, and then refused to publish a replication of the same paper stating no results. Because the first one sells issues and the second one doesn't.

Nature does love flashy stories but the ESP stuff wasn’t them, it was JPSP.

Here’s the citation: Bem, D. J. (2011). Feeling the future: Experimental evidence for anomalous retroactive influences on cognition and affect. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 100(3), 407-425. http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/a0021524

Nature did publish a thing on “water memory” in the 1980s. To their (partial) credit, it was published with an editorial pointing out how unlikely the findings were.

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by SubiculumCode »

louthy wrote: post #13
pmoriarty wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After hearing this intriguing RadioLab episode some months back, I started searching around youtube for 40 Hz tones and found quite a lot of videos of all kinds that use those and other tones allegedly related to various brain waves (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc). I listened to a whole bunch of these videos, and while I wasn't measuring my memory, I did pay close attention to how the sounds made me feel, and this one part…

[3] is definitely not 40hz. 40hz is in the sub-bass range, which this clearly isn't. I'm not at home in my studio right now, so I can't measure what it is, but if I was to guess it would be around 200hz. The ones that are 20hz might make you feel a bit weird because there's not much amateur audio equipment that would do anything other than distort at that low end of the frequency range. It does say binaural though, s…

In the paper, "a 10 kHz tone was played at 40 Hz"

So its a high pitched sound played in 40 Hz bursts. Anyone have a generator for something like that? (though 10 kHz can be annoying)

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by SubiculumCode »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #35
louthy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[3] is definitely not 40hz. 40hz is in the sub-bass range, which this clearly isn't. I'm not at home in my studio right now, so I can't measure what it is, but if I was to guess it would be around 200hz. The ones that are 20hz might make you feel a bit weird because there's not much amateur audio equipment that would do anything other than distort at that low end of the frequency range. It does say binaural though, s…

In the paper, "a 10 kHz tone was played at 40 Hz" So its a high pitched sound played in 40 Hz bursts. Anyone have a generator for something like that? (though 10 kHz can be annoying)

or is that what binaural refers to?

Re: Flashing Light, Sound Restore Memory in Alzheimer's Mice

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Post by c0nducktr »

I've heard people talk about binaural beats before, but always brushed it off as pseudoscience.

> The noninvasive treatment induces brain waves called gamma oscillations.

Is this true? Does anyone have a link that explains these brain wave patterns in layman's terms? What exactly is happening to my brain when listening to these sounds?

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