The western culture all accept china should have a firewall. That ... It is abnormal you know.
Noone said that. If anything we accept we have no control over China's policies.
Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China
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#32> Bing,..., is active on 320,000 unique devices monthly, according to third-party research firm iResearch. That’s dwarfed by Baidu’s 466 million and Sogou’s 43 million. Wow, bing is even less popular there than it is here relative to google.
I mean Bing also means sick in Chinese, so it's not a good choice of name.
The Chinese name is "必应”，which means "will reply"
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#33Apparently it's just technical problems: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/china-is-...
People report that it's already working again: https://www.v2ex.com/t/530388
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#34It honestly makes no difference. Bing search in China was absolutely useless the last few times I was there. Searches for any keyword, including technical terms, just returned a list of unrelated “news” articles.
Bing in China fills my needs when I visit. Taking a look at my recent browsing history I was able to use Bing in China to find: hotels that accept foreign guests, terminals for flights, train maps, etc.
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#35I'm not surprised they were having issues if their systems are optimized for less than a million monthly unique users. The article says 320,000. A single popular news article could easily absolutely overwhelm that level of traffic.
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#36This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…
I showed a google map to a police officer (border control on the highway) to show where I was going, no problem. Had setup a few VPN on my iphone before going to have options in case one or two got flagged. My uni VPN worked during my entire stay.
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I don't know, but if you bring in a foreign phone to China with international data roaming, you can still access the uncensored internet with it. The data appears to be routed separately over the phone network, and it appears to exit from your carrier in your home country.
I've heard this is a temporary thing to make it easier for visitors, and it will stop working if you stay too long.
They've got firewall (from US company Palo Alto Networks, btw), to block GTP traffic over GRX (which is used for roamers) based on their rules.
And unrestricted access is already unavailable in Tibet and Xinjiang.
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#38And, Microsoft even follows China’s censorship rules. Employees of tech companies protest when their companies collaborate with defense departments. But, yet those employees aren’t very loud when it comes to censorship.
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The popular counterpant to "Everyone I don't like is Hitler": "Everyone I don't like is a communist".
The 50s have called and want their witchhunt back.
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is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?
Also what about ssh?
They can definitely detect it: http://blog.zorinaq.com/my-experience-with-the-great-firewal...