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Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by drewmate »

slickbuntu wrote: post #8
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?

It's tricky. But doable. I know because I have done it on all three of my trips there.

I'm curious what challenges you faced. I went once (a little over 3 years ago) and used a vpn fairly frequently (on and off as needed.) I think I even found and signed up for one while completely behind the great firewall.

Now, of course, I'd recommend setting it all up before going, but I've heard that it's still relatively commonplace for Westerners and PRC mostly turns a blind eye.

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by idrios »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #7
idrios wrote: post #3

This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…

is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?

Myself and all my friends paid for ExpressVPN. Much easier to get working if you have it installed before you go there, but not impossible

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by viivaux »

dep_b wrote: post #9
afpx wrote: post #2

And, Microsoft even follows China’s censorship rules. Employees of tech companies protest when their companies collaborate with defense departments. But, yet those employees aren’t very loud when it comes to censorship.

Microsoft never promised to be a world-healing company.

Quick tip: when people give out about a massive company (one with a real influence on the world, mind you) doing something they feel isn't right, that's :not the same thing: as assuming the company has a moral duty to heal the world.

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by arrivance »

idrios wrote: post #3

This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…

> Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba.

I mean, by last year that relationship stopped existing (as Yahoo!'s Ali shares would be with Altaba).

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by ardy42 »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #7
idrios wrote: post #3

This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…

is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?

I don't know, but if you bring in a foreign phone to China with international data roaming, you can still access the uncensored internet with it. The data appears to be routed separately over the phone network, and it appears to exit from your carrier in your home country.

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by lordnacho »

ardy42 wrote: post #15
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?

I don't know, but if you bring in a foreign phone to China with international data roaming, you can still access the uncensored internet with it. The data appears to be routed separately over the phone network, and it appears to exit from your carrier in your home country.

I've heard this is a temporary thing to make it easier for visitors, and it will stop working if you stay too long.

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by tryonqc »

idrios wrote: post #3

This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…

I showed a google map to a police officer (border control on the highway) to show where I was going, no problem. Had setup a few VPN on my iphone before going to have options in case one or two got flagged. My uni VPN worked during my entire stay.

Re: Microsoft confirms Bing is down in China

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Post by curt15 »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #7
idrios wrote: post #3

This actually surprises me for how much effort Microsoft puts into being compliant with China. Last year China took down Yahoo! too, despite Yahoo's relationship with Alibaba. I was an expat last year and with Google (& DuckDuckGo) blocked I already had pretty few options of search engine. Short of learning enough Chinese to manage Baidu, I can't imagine how hard it would be to use internet as a foreigner in China no…

is it possible to use a VPN in the PR of China?

Also what about ssh?
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