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Re: 42 (school)

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45 is the cap.

Why not look at the source to get the right information? https://www.42.us.org/42-admissions-overview-requirements-pr... https://www.42.us.org/42-admissions-overview-requirements-pr... > I AM NOT BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 45. CAN I COME TO 42? > Yes! We are looking for learners who are motivated. In establishing the school in the US, we focused first on the age range we’re familiar with, then expanded to include hig…

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Having interviewed a bunch of 42 graduates, my main issue with 42 is that it doesn't teach their students to think about what they're doing, encouraging them instead to rush to the keyboard and emit as much code as they can as if programming for the last day of their project. This seems to resonate well with the culture of piscines at 42.

To me, this is as silly as training Biathlon athletes to not even aim before they shoot.

So far, I've always ended up not recruiting the candidates, because they would have made a mess of the codebase in no time, bringing negative net productivity to the team (more so than most junior candidates I've seen). And this was for jobs in a startup!

I wish 42 would teach them the necessary insights to program sustainably - that's where teachers and mentors are indispensable, and that's the rare skill most companies are lacking. Anyone can pick up tutorials and read manuals on their own. Make them developers, not eternal coding beginners. I'm not asking for an academic or scientific focus, just a good philosophy of programming in general, the kind of which you see in SICP for example.

Unfortunately, 42 does not have a monopoly on producing short-sighted developers in France, by far - that's the case of most "learn to code in X days/months/years" programs.

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Too bad I'm over 30.

There’s no age restrictions for the Silicon Valley campus, you’re more than welcome to apply.

The terms of service you must agree to state:

Terms of Use for this Website

Candidate to 42, I...: Confirm that I will be between 18 and 45 years old in november or less then 18 years old and in 12th grade (or equivalent). ...

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45 is the cap.

Why not look at the source to get the right information? https://www.42.us.org/42-admissions-overview-requirements-pr... https://www.42.us.org/42-admissions-overview-requirements-pr... > I AM NOT BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 45. CAN I COME TO 42? > Yes! We are looking for learners who are motivated. In establishing the school in the US, we focused first on the age range we’re familiar with, then expanded to include hig…

For what it’s worth, I’ve been absolutely smoked in 5k races by people who were 40+. Instead of offending those people by implying they don’t have the stamina to keep up, just say no. People respect “no.” No one respects disingenuous language.

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There is a bunch of successful companies led by graduate from theses kind of school. Check out vente privée CTO. Another example could be the core team that developed docker that was from there as well.

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45 is the cap.

I’m typing this comment as I sit inside the 42 Fremont campus and I’ve personally seen students here that have to have been older than 45.

Most likely they are younger than 45, but didn't age well :) I work with guys who in their late 20's but look way over 45...

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I’m a current student at 42, myself and my fellow students all had a pretty good laugh at much of their comments. We didn’t really see an accurate representation of our school, and much of it came across as a bitter student who wasn’t accepted. For example, there is a cat at the Paris campus and the students are asked to ignore it and not pet it. That guidance turned into the ‘rule’ that if ‘the cat touches you, you…

why not pet a cat? what did the cat do to them? is 42 anti cat? just kidding. see how easily conspiracy theories form?

damn cat haters.

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"The candidates must be between 18 and 30 years of age (18 - 45 in Silicon Valley).[14] No previous diploma is required." Age discrimination at its best. Cap it at 45? How many people over 30 (45 in the US) are trying to retool and get educated on programming?

The older copy of the US site at https://web.archive.org/web/20180206011840/https://www.42.us... is very clear: "I AM NOT BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 30. CAN I COME TO 42? No. While we do not have anything against those who are over 30 years old, when opening a new location, we have decided to concentrate our where they can be the most efficient and where we have a great deal of experience." On the current site this i…

Have you tried applying to a publicly funded phd program or med school @age > 45?

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> private schools are expensive > I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum $9100 a year is indeed expensive for French schools, but I'm sure some Americans on the other side of the ponds are chuckling right now.

For comparison purposes, tuition fees in a French public engineering school were around 700€/$800 per year when I was there about a decade ago, and I wouldn't expect this to have changed much.

Not sure about France, but in the Netherlands now it's 2000 euros. Though I believe people are trying to lower that again.

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Some previous meta-discussion about a reddit post that made some very critical claims about 42: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18189670

I’m a current student at 42, myself and my fellow students all had a pretty good laugh at much of their comments. We didn’t really see an accurate representation of our school, and much of it came across as a bitter student who wasn’t accepted. For example, there is a cat at the Paris campus and the students are asked to ignore it and not pet it. That guidance turned into the ‘rule’ that if ‘the cat touches you, you…

Pet-based discrimination.
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