Sounds somewhat similar to https://www.recurse.com
totally different. 42 is a real school with a, I believe, 3-year program.
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#22"The candidates must be between 18 and 30 years of age (18 - 45 in Silicon Valley).[14] No previous diploma is required." Age discrimination at its best. Cap it at 45? How many people over 30 (45 in the US) are trying to retool and get educated on programming?
This school is for free, and to educate the next generation of students, why do you have to complain?
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#23"The candidates must be between 18 and 30 years of age (18 - 45 in Silicon Valley).[14] No previous diploma is required." Age discrimination at its best. Cap it at 45? How many people over 30 (45 in the US) are trying to retool and get educated on programming?
The older copy of the US site at https://web.archive.org/web/20180206011840/https://www.42.us...
is very clear:
"I AM NOT BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 30. CAN I COME TO 42?
No. While we do not have anything against those who are over 30 years old, when opening a new location, we have decided to concentrate our where they can be the most efficient and where we have a great deal of experience."
On the current site this is changed to: "You can apply to 42 if you’re older than 45, but please know that most students here are younger and that Intensive Basic Training is tiring."
Hardly encouraging.
The french site http://www.42.fr/ says "ouverte à tous et accessible aux 18-30 ans" (18-30 only)
Draw your own conclusions about age discrimination here. You are free to apply...
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#24This kind of discussion will end up being the typical (French) disdain between people learning engineering in the public schools v/s the ones learning in these "practical teaching" private schools and vice versa. There are good engineers in both, both have different approach to teach which fit different people. Both do generally good in the private sector after they're done with it. As usual the people graduating fro…
My opinion is that you have a close division of very good students, good students, average students, mediocre student, etc. in both the public schools and the more private ones. I'd say that it seems like it's easier to make it as an average/mediocre person if you're doing epitech, 101, 42, etc. If you're very good, it seems like you'll do better with a more beefy theoretical background
> I'd say that it seems like it's easier to make it as an average/mediocre person if you're doing epitech, 101, 42, etc.
You could just as well learn all the theory by heart, do not know how to use it in practical situations, forget it after the exams and pass just fine in most public schools as well. If you're bad and not willing, you're gonna be bad, no education will save you
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#25I have gone to several hackathons at 42. It is quite a nice campus, really well maintained.
It's much bigger than you'd think and the supervisors are happy to let visitors explore
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#26This kind of discussion will end up being the typical (French) disdain between people learning engineering in the public schools v/s the ones learning in these "practical teaching" private schools and vice versa. There are good engineers in both, both have different approach to teach which fit different people. Both do generally good in the private sector after they're done with it. As usual the people graduating fro…
You forgot to mention the private schools are expensive and use a somewhat pyramidal scheme where older students teach newer ones to repaid part of their school fees. In public education all teachers hold PhD or engineer titles so they have more years to think about what they teach than the guy who is only year+2 of the teachee.
Edit: I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum. You can make a century of studies for the same price in any public university.
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#27This kind of discussion will end up being the typical (French) disdain between people learning engineering in the public schools v/s the ones learning in these "practical teaching" private schools and vice versa. There are good engineers in both, both have different approach to teach which fit different people. Both do generally good in the private sector after they're done with it. As usual the people graduating fro…
You forgot to mention the private schools are expensive and use a somewhat pyramidal scheme where older students teach newer ones to repaid part of their school fees. In public education all teachers hold PhD or engineer titles so they have more years to think about what they teach than the guy who is only year+2 of the teachee. Edit: I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum.…
> private schools are expensive
> I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum
$9100 a year is indeed expensive for French schools, but I'm sure some Americans on the other side of the ponds are chuckling right now.
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#28Any 42 silicon valley grads here on HN? How was it?
Not a grad yet but I'm level 15 of 21, currently doing an internship at ford.
As for 42 it's not for everyone, you have to be a self starter and you have to be driven.
I came to the school because I wanted a place that would help focus my studies, I think that if you can relate to that you would do well here.
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#29This kind of discussion will end up being the typical (French) disdain between people learning engineering in the public schools v/s the ones learning in these "practical teaching" private schools and vice versa. There are good engineers in both, both have different approach to teach which fit different people. Both do generally good in the private sector after they're done with it. As usual the people graduating fro…
You forgot to mention the private schools are expensive and use a somewhat pyramidal scheme where older students teach newer ones to repaid part of their school fees. In public education all teachers hold PhD or engineer titles so they have more years to think about what they teach than the guy who is only year+2 of the teachee. Edit: I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum.…
Some of their practice does suck, but it does work nonetheless since nearly everyone end up finding a decent paying job after graduation. You could find bad things about the public institutions too (some people complaining about coding on paper, outdated etc).
As I said "This kind of discussion will end up being the typical (French) disdain between people learning engineering in the public schools v/s the ones learning in these "practical teaching" private schools and vice versa."
At the end of the day, both ways work. One is free if you fit the public education.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
You forgot to mention the private schools are expensive and use a somewhat pyramidal scheme where older students teach newer ones to repaid part of their school fees. In public education all teachers hold PhD or engineer titles so they have more years to think about what they teach than the guy who is only year+2 of the teachee. Edit: I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum.…
> private schools are expensive > I checked Epitech tuition fees, it's around 40k€ for the whole 5 years curriculum $9100 a year is indeed expensive for French schools, but I'm sure some Americans on the other side of the ponds are chuckling right now.
For comparison purposes, tuition fees in a French public engineering school were around 700€/$800 per year when I was there about a decade ago, and I wouldn't expect this to have changed much.