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The Machine Fired Me

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Re: The Machine Fired Me

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sigfubar wrote: post #16
drewg123 wrote: post #11

I had a somewhat similar, but much less serious experience at Google. I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective. Much to my surprise, the resignation (slated to be effective after the promo) somehow cancelled the promo via some automated system. However, a promo at Google is a huge deal. I really wanted the promotion to go through, so that I would have that level…

What made you think that you were entitled to something that you were supposed to receive on a date which was later than the date on which you resigned?

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Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by arglebarnacle »

I was misatakenly caught in an automated ban wave in World of Warcraft for "botting" just a couple months after joining, but as soon as a human reviewed my account I was reinstated immediately.

The automated system flagged my account a second time a few weeks later, and when I appealed they simply said that although they didn't see any evidence of rule-breaking behavior, nobody got caught by the automated system twice unless they were cheating.

I was out over $100, and I didn't even get six months to play the game. Sometimes The Machine just "knows best".

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by [deleted] »

VRay wrote: post #22
drewg123 wrote: post #11

I had a somewhat similar, but much less serious experience at Google. I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective. Much to my surprise, the resignation (slated to be effective after the promo) somehow cancelled the promo via some automated system. However, a promo at Google is a huge deal. I really wanted the promotion to go through, so that I would have that level…

You need to stand up, stretch, and look really carefully at the world at large and your place in it. Getting a promotion at Google isn't actually a big deal at all, man. You went from generating $2M and being paid $225k of it to generating $2M and being paid $250k, plus you get an extra word in your title https://csimarket.com/stocks/GOOG-Revenue-per-Employee.html

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Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by eridius »

arglebarnacle wrote: post #32

I was misatakenly caught in an automated ban wave in World of Warcraft for "botting" just a couple months after joining, but as soon as a human reviewed my account I was reinstated immediately. The automated system flagged my account a second time a few weeks later, and when I appealed they simply said that although they didn't see any evidence of rule-breaking behavior, nobody got caught by the automated system twic…

Simple explanation: they did in fact see what you were doing and just didn't want to tell you because they don't want to teach cheaters how to evade bans. They were hoping after the first review that you would start playing by the rules.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by romwell »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #24

>HR machine denies human a job >Hundred of thousands of records were missing and the web interface was not responding. Are you sure you guys didn't have an attacker on the loose?

As my understanding was that the auto-reboot and lockdown of the systems supported by this engineer were the cause of this, the attacker scenario yields to Hanlon's razor here.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by burnte »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #24

>HR machine denies human a job >Hundred of thousands of records were missing and the web interface was not responding. Are you sure you guys didn't have an attacker on the loose?

The article describes that his former manager was terminated due to a corporate acquisition, and turned into a contract-worker from home "until after the takeover" and that manager never updated the HR system to show the article writer's contract was renewed. So, from the system's perspective, he was to be terminated on 3/1/17, and the system hadn't been told that was no longer true and so it performed it's programmed activities.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by phyzome »

sigfubar wrote: post #16
drewg123 wrote: post #11

I had a somewhat similar, but much less serious experience at Google. I resigned just after I had gotten a promotion, but before the date when the promo was effective. Much to my surprise, the resignation (slated to be effective after the promo) somehow cancelled the promo via some automated system. However, a promo at Google is a huge deal. I really wanted the promotion to go through, so that I would have that level…

What made you think that you were entitled to something that you were supposed to receive on a date which was later than the date on which you resigned?

A promotion can also be a way of acknowledging an existing reality.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by Swizec »

terlisimo wrote: post #18

I had a sort-of related experience with PayPal where the machine said "No." I've been using it for at least 10 years at that point. What I did was try to pay for some cheap VPS hosting in Italy. The transaction was denied. I thought there was some problem with my CC, so I immediately tried to do a $1 transaction with some other company and it went without a hitch. So I contacted PayPal support about it and the next d…

> I realized that there is no pleading or reasoning with The Machine.

Weapons of Math Destruction was one of the most eye opening books I read recently. It's all about how Machines when set up with self-reinforcing models can become a real big problem.

And how the fact nobody quite understands how The Machine makes decisions isn't helping either.

Re: The Machine Fired Me

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Post by RandomInteger4 »

drewg123 wrote: post #20
sigfubar wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What made you think that you were entitled to something that you were supposed to receive on a date which was later than the date on which you resigned?

I resigned effective the 2nd of a month, and the promo was effective the 1st of the month. See above "resignation (slated to be effective after the promo)". So the resignation was scheduled for the day after the promo. I actually stayed an extra week to receive the promo.

I'm not going to lie; that type of thing -- resigning right after getting promoted -- seems like something from some alternate reality fantasy world.
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