Earlier quoted context omitted.
Link to the actual buoy data page: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46410&type... Worth noting that other nearby buoys don't show such a dramatic wave: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46409&type... Here's a map: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/obs.shtml (click on the blinking ones) And here's a map of tsunami-capable tide stations: https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/tsunami/#
At the top of those pages I see this message: > Due to the Federal Government shutdown, NOAA.gov and most associated websites are unavailable. This site will remain accessible during the federal government shutdown; however, information on the site may not be up to date and we may not be able to respond to inquiries until appropriations are enacted so, is it up to date?
Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
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Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#32Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not an oceanic scientist but sound speed in water is ~1500m/s. This is the speed at which a pressure perturbation propagates. The speed at which the actual tsunami wave would propagate is much more slower than this. So I believe that the excitation marked in the plot is the pressure wave caused by the earthquake, which travels orders of magnitude faster than an actual water wave caused by the earth displacement.
But that doesn't fit the data, either. The buoys all report something around the 9:45ish GMT mark. And 1500m/s would mean you reach Mendocino bay in California only about now or so. But have a look at the plot: https://archive.fo/KsN8b
Edit. From this page: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/dart/dart.shtml
> The system has two data reporting modes, standard and event. The system operates routinely in standard mode, in which four spot values (of the 15-s data) at 15-minute intervals of the estimated sea surface height are reported at scheduled transmission times. When the internal detection software (Mofjeld) identifies an event, the system ceases standard mode reporting and begins event mode transmissions. In event mode, 15-second values are transmitted during the initial few minutes, followed by 1-minute averages. Event mode messages also contain the time of the initial occurrence of the event. The system returns to standard transmission after 4 hours of 1-minute real-time transmissions if no further events are detected.
The algorithm is described here: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/dart/algorithm.shtml
Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#34Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Link to the actual buoy data page: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46410&type... Worth noting that other nearby buoys don't show such a dramatic wave: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46409&type... Here's a map: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/obs.shtml (click on the blinking ones) And here's a map of tsunami-capable tide stations: https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/tsunami/#
What I don't get is that nearly all the buoys that have that moving icon "Tsunami alert" show some excitation at the ~9:45GMT mark. But I would of course expect the buoys that are farther away to only show some kind of peak when the wave actually reaches them. And it looks like they are thousands of km away, so some of them should not even have been reached yet. Some what is going on there? Is the data time actually…
Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#36Wow 15 hours to australia, that thing is moving fast.
Will this wave affect boats? Imagine being on a yacht in the middle of the Pacific (not Atlantic Doh!) when a 10m wave moving at 20m/s hits (figures not accurate just guesses)
Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The page is specific to Hawaii, but you can go to http://www.weather.gov/ and in the map, click your region and then "tsunami warning" or "tsunami watch" to see estimated times for other states. This is the tsunami watch notice for coastal areas of Oregon, Washington & California: http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=sew&wwa...
You can also quickly access this info at http://www.tsunami.gov . Or at least normally it's quick; page is taking a good 10 seconds to load for me right now—under a bit of load, presumably. It includes Canada as well. (In fact, the BC Emergency site quotes from it and links back to it!)
Hopefully, they'll be able to get some equipment upgrades as a result of this.
Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#38Wow 15 hours to australia, that thing is moving fast.
Will this wave affect boats? Imagine being on a yacht in the middle of the Pacific (not Atlantic Doh!) when a 10m wave moving at 20m/s hits (figures not accurate just guesses)
Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#39Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I don't get is that nearly all the buoys that have that moving icon "Tsunami alert" show some excitation at the ~9:45GMT mark. But I would of course expect the buoys that are farther away to only show some kind of peak when the wave actually reaches them. And it looks like they are thousands of km away, so some of them should not even have been reached yet. Some what is going on there? Is the data time actually…
This is from an aftershock, which happened 09:47:53 (UTC). Info taken from https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
Honestly, this looks to me rather like some bad data due to the buoys switching mode because of radio commanding 15min after the quake rather than any wave arriving. (Like the other poster suggested)
Even if the shock would travel through an Earth made out of steel, it wouldn't have reached Mendocino bay that fast.
EDIT: There is actually a time shift and it seems to be enough, as wiredfool pointed out. Thanks!