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Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by keypress »

nash_tr wrote: post #14
nitemice wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been wanting to do this for literally years now, but I don't think I could convince the vast majority of my friends to move onto anything together, let alone Signal. Most of them are non-technical, and it just holds no appeal. Plus, because they would basically just be installing it just to talk to me, they would probably nearly never be online or check their messages, so I'd almost never get to talk to them a…

You could unfollow everyone. i did this a few months back and haven't missed it at all. way less distraction.

You are basically saying your friends were a distraction. Which is a little rude (UK perspective).

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by mullsork »

Aloha wrote: post #24
m52go wrote: post #3

Despite its imperfections, which in my cursory understanding are largely academic, Telegram is an amazing messenger. It's very quick, feature-rich, and developer-friendly. Perhaps best of all, it's a nonprofit. So I can expect, with a high degree of confidence, that the organization won't abruptly switch course one day to appease investors.

Telegram has solved the communications problem for me mostly. Before telegram, I had, all of the legacy messenger services (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Skype, etc), plus Slack, IRC and whatever I used at work - now I have Telegram, and no longer sign into those legacy services anymore. What makes telegram a winner for me is that the desktop is a first class citizen, I'm in front of a computer like 18 hours a day - I don't want…

Are you using Telegram instead of Slack at work?

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by icantdrive55 »

keypress wrote: post #31
nash_tr wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could unfollow everyone. i did this a few months back and haven't missed it at all. way less distraction.

You are basically saying your friends were a distraction. Which is a little rude (UK perspective).

In the US, many FB'ers friend anyone. I had this girl I worshiped years ago. She finally seemed interested, on a chance encounter. She said, "I'll friend you?" Blah, blah, etc.

I got home, and looked her up. She had 550 friends. I can't figure out if I don't like her now because she rebuffed me years ago, or she has 550 FB friends. And yes--I took into account she might be insecure now, and filled with self-doubt; which would explain why she needs to have a following.

All I know is I don't feel the same way about her as I did before I saw her FB page though. Weird?

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by whazor »

electic wrote: post #6

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

Here in Netherlands, before Facebook, we had a social network called Hyves. One of the reasons it failed is because of the disassociated graph, like you mentioned. You start out with all of your friends from high school, but once you start to grow.. the distance between you and them growths. That is why people started moving to Facebook, because all their cool friends where there.

I guess the only reason why Facebook is still surviving is because everyone is on there, you do not want to lose certain friends. They have conquered the market.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by wruza »

madprops wrote: post #19
electic wrote: post #6

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

I think you're not using Facebook appropriately. There are many groups and pages that keep you engaged and entertained as well as informed to some extent. You join the ones that cater your interest. I actually spend a lot of time on facebook daily because I managed to get a good selection of interesting sources. I have heard the same old tired tale that facebook is dying etc and it feels so vibrant right now. I guess…

You're basically describing the internet.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by stupidhn »

electic wrote: post #6

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram. If you look at, say, Instagram it is growing rapidly. Specifically to Facebook, the issue is 3 pronged: - Disassociated Graph. The truth is the friends you had in high school and your family are all great but it is highly likely you don't share a lot of things in common with them. For example, your love for kayaking and the outdoors might resonate with no one on your…

This is a puff piece designed to puff up Telegram.

It mentions Telegram one time,as well as competitors. You think it was written as a promotion? People's fake news detectors have flow off the rails.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by theprop »

This is interesting because I thought that Durov after selling VK invested the proceeds into FB?!

I don't know that the decline of usage of Facebook means Facebook is necessarily in decline (though I agree with the anecdotal notes about using FB less). It could be that usage has moderated a bit from the migration from desktop to mostly mobile. It may mean that social network activity is split say between FB and Snapchat (and messaging clients). If it does indicate FB is in decline, it doesn't necessarily mean social networks are unneeded or in decline, it may just mean we need new social networks :-).

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by tempestn »

icantdrive55 wrote: post #33
keypress wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are basically saying your friends were a distraction. Which is a little rude (UK perspective).

In the US, many FB'ers friend anyone. I had this girl I worshiped years ago. She finally seemed interested, on a chance encounter. She said, "I'll friend you?" Blah, blah, etc. I got home, and looked her up. She had 550 friends. I can't figure out if I don't like her now because she rebuffed me years ago, or she has 550 FB friends. And yes--I took into account she might be insecure now, and filled with self-doubt; wh…

I think you're reading too much into it. I barely use facebook and have a couple hundred friends. I'll accept an invite from anyone I know and like, regardless of how well I know them. Do that for a decade, or however long FB's been around, and you build up quite a few.

Re: Pavel Durov Has Unfriended Everyone

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Post by lmm »

electic wrote: post #13
nitemice wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I understand it, the first two of these problems, you could theoretically fix (to some extent) yourself. If you share nothing in common with your high school friends, your family etc., just don't be 'friends' with them. Only friend/like pages related to your interest. In theory, that would fix problem 2 as well, to some extent, because the majority of the junk that fills your feed comes from your twice-remo…

> As far as I understand it, the first two of these problems, you could theoretically fix (to some extent) yourself. How will the average person fix that? I assume you are talking about an ad blocker? Then it only get's rid of the side ads. It does not get rid of the junk in the main feed. Even training the system won't get you the result you desire. > If you share nothing in common with your high school friends, you…

> How will the average person fix that? I assume you are talking about an ad blocker? Then it only get's rid of the side ads. It does not get rid of the junk in the main feed. Even training the system won't get you the result you desire.

When you see junk in your feed, unfollow, unfriend, or hide ad. The button's right there.

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