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Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

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Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#31
This is crap, the changed condition is still unacceptable. These conditions are a deal-breaker for me. I would have considered buying an iPhone and developing on it, but because of this stupid other-language-prohibition, I will never buy an Apple product. I bought a Nokia N900 (Maemo / Debian / GNU / Linux phone). I'm very happy being able to run anything on it without having to jail-break or break license terms. Also it runs at up to 1.15Ghz, which is faster than the iPad and newest iPhone.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#32
post #31

This is crap, the changed condition is still unacceptable. These conditions are a deal-breaker for me. I would have considered buying an iPhone and developing on it, but because of this stupid other-language-prohibition, I will never buy an Apple product. I bought a Nokia N900 (Maemo / Debian / GNU / Linux phone). I'm very happy being able to run anything on it without having to jail-break or break license terms. Als…

You will hurt their market share incredibly doing so. They will also care.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#33
post #32
post #31

This is crap, the changed condition is still unacceptable. These conditions are a deal-breaker for me. I would have considered buying an iPhone and developing on it, but because of this stupid other-language-prohibition, I will never buy an Apple product. I bought a Nokia N900 (Maemo / Debian / GNU / Linux phone). I'm very happy being able to run anything on it without having to jail-break or break license terms. Als…

You will hurt their market share incredibly doing so. They will also care.

I wish I had enough karma points to downvote you.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#34
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Exactly. And the blog's explanation of beign used for game scripting as a minor feature falls short: can anyone imagine what Half Life would be like without scripted events?

Imagine Half Life without 3d graphics. Now you see why scripting is a 'minor' feature.

Minor? Those scripted events are easily just as important as the 3d graphics. Without them it's just a fancy screensaver.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

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You will hurt their market share incredibly doing so. They will also care.

I wish I had enough karma points to downvote you.

I have enough, I'll do it for you. Just because you can't fight the man and win all by yourself doesn't mean you shouldn't fight him.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#36

IMHO this doesn't help at all. The core issue is that I can't make an app that runs on multiple platforms. I know that cross platform is against Apple's best interest, but I just don't care. I won't be writing Apple applications.

I'd go so far as to argue that platform lock-in is only in a vendor's best interest in a narrow and relatively short-term way. In the long run, platform lock-in actually undermines the incentive to innovate and compete on merit. Eventually they became ripe targets for disruption and the cycle begins again. I think a rational actor with a 10-year investment horizon would want open competition to keep themselves honest.

Either way I applaud your decision.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#37
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I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.

If we don't like parts of the deal as it stands and they altered one of those parts for the better, do we really want to pray that they don't alter it further? Witty quote and all, but it seems out of place here.

I find your lack of a basic sense of humor disturbing.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

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I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.

If we don't like parts of the deal as it stands and they altered one of those parts for the better, do we really want to pray that they don't alter it further? Witty quote and all, but it seems out of place here.

A bad deal that you can count on is better than a bad deal that keeps changing under your feet.

Re: Hello, Lua. (Apple opens door to interpreters on iOS devices)

#39

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> Thus, writing an entire iOS app in an interpreted language (such as Lua) does not seem likely to be allowed. Indeed, this is pretty much specifically tailored towards games (which are scripted using e.g. Lua but not entirely written in it) or things like emulators. Apparently, Apple has decided to go over Jobs's dislike for games and let them grow further on the platform.

games are selling a lot of iPod touches.

Yes, but that doesn't mean Jobs likes games on his beautiful slab of glass. His initial reaction to them, back in the early days of the SDK (pre-release and right after release) was basically one of disgust.
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