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What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by jedberg »

kornish wrote: post #29
jedberg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if an app is not available on the app store, does that stop you from getting it? That's a consumer benefit but it has no corresponding benefit to the developer, so it's unlikely to be a good argument for a developer to stick with the app store.

Wait a sec – consumer benefits absolutely affect the developer, because they affect whether or not the consumer buys the developer's app! It's not necessarily a dealmaker or breaker; but if someone really cares about that and the market has many substitutes, it could be enough to sway them towards App Store purchase.

But that's my point. I think there is only a tiny number of people for whom that particular consumer benefit is a make or break deal.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by eridius »

ThomPete wrote: post #22
huangc10 wrote: post #14

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It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.

You probably should. Your usage of the App Store logo is likely in contradiction with Apple's rules, and since it's their IP, they get to dictate how it's used.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by bsaul »

exabrial wrote: post #10

I greatly dislike the osx app store. It's intrusive, slow (even over Google fiber), has an awful UI, and is generally annoying.

Evey single thing of those apple store is a gigantic shame.

Interface for browsing content ( itunes) : sucks, absolute disaster.

Interface for publishing content ( itunesconnect) : feels like the work of an intern

Review process : lottery. Never know for sure if your business isn't going to get killed by an eula update.

Development tools ( xcode ) : so bad it becomes embarrassing.

Commission : 30% is a total ripoff. Should be half of it, max.

Content indexing / discoverability : nonexistant. So bad they had to force developpers to remove working but non updated apps.

And I could go on and on, but really, the only reason it remains this bad is because apple is in a de facto monopoly position on everything related to their products.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by sigjuice »

e40 wrote: post #27
spott wrote: post #4

The value-add of the mac store is just not very good anymore. There are only three reasons people might buy something from the mac store vs. from the developer directly: 1. To keep it getting updates through the app store vs. having to download from the developer when a new update comes out. 2. They found it in the mac store, and thus purchased it in the mac store. 3. They trust apple to reduce the risk of malware wh…

#4: I get to use it on 5 computers.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202152 seems to imply that there is no such limit.

Can I use apps from the Mac App Store on more than one computer?

Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by milankragujevic »

sushid wrote: post #30
milankragujevic wrote: post #15

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I like how even thought I got windows 10 home with my laptop I can't install it from anywhere because the laptop didn't come with a recovery USB and the recovery partition got corrupted so basically I have to rely on downloading so-called "MSDN" images from torrents and hope for the best, verifying the hashes along the way...

That's simply untrue. You can download a copy of Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft. [0] It's the first search result if you Google Windows 10 ISO. Plus, most laptops don't come with a recovery USB (neither do Macs) and IMO having a recovery partition is silly when installing it from scratch is cleaner/easier. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Maybe on windows 7 or 8/8.1, but on 10 I see no download, how can I download an ISO without downloading a program? Plus let's say I have a metered connection (that I often do, when I'm away from home) and my windows 10 broke by itself as it often does? I can't go to a library or something and download the iso because I don't have admin permissions and microsoft's tool requires admin permissions. I'm not trying to criticize the OS for this, it already has been criticized enough for spyware, but seriously microsoft is just making it harder for me to use their software legally. Also the confusion about buying an OEM license and why there are no retail licenses in Serbia?

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by dirtae »

BoorishBears wrote: post #3

*What happens when you pull a well established app with an extremely well established (and very tech savvy) user base from the macOS App Store in a public fashion.

Piezo, Rogue Amoeba's app, was removed from the Mac App Store with "minimal publicity", according to their blog post:

https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2017/02/10/piezos-life-outsid...

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by dantiberian »

ThomPete wrote: post #22
huangc10 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's smart of you to still use the App Store logo though. ;) I'll give you that.

Interesting never thought about it like that. To me the icon indicating it's app store is this: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/marketing/guidelines/#... But now you actually got me wondering if I should change it.

Yeah, that's not the app store icon, it's the generic Apple icon for an application. I would leave it, it indicates a Mac app, but not a MAS app.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by wire9 »

milankragujevic wrote: post #35
sushid wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's simply untrue. You can download a copy of Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft. [0] It's the first search result if you Google Windows 10 ISO. Plus, most laptops don't come with a recovery USB (neither do Macs) and IMO having a recovery partition is silly when installing it from scratch is cleaner/easier. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Maybe on windows 7 or 8/8.1, but on 10 I see no download, how can I download an ISO without downloading a program? Plus let's say I have a metered connection (that I often do, when I'm away from home) and my windows 10 broke by itself as it often does? I can't go to a library or something and download the iso because I don't have admin permissions and microsoft's tool requires admin permissions. I'm not trying to cri…

Huh? Select Home/Pro. Select language. Download button appears for both 32/64 bit. No special software, just a download link.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by lmm »

seanalltogether wrote: post #18

I really really really wish amazon would just develop a vendor neutral app store already. Valve seems unwilling to branch into apps outside the sphere of the gaming community. Apple and Microsoft seem to not care about the features that would make their stores more attractive to both buyers and sellers.

They have a store on android, but I don't get the impression it's been a massive success.

Re: What happens when you dump the App Store?

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Post by cortesoft »

sigjuice wrote: post #34
e40 wrote: post #27

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#4: I get to use it on 5 computers.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202152 seems to imply that there is no such limit. Can I use apps from the Mac App Store on more than one computer? Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.

You can only have 10 devices (and only 5 of them computers) associated to a single Apple ID:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204074

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