U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination

Post by hemantv » Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 10:07 PM UTC

gmarx wrote: post #23

titomc wrote: post #6

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" Most of the time it is just easier to hire Asian/Indian employees because they are readily available " - I doubt that. It's "easier" to hire because they "agree" to lower wages and its easier to retain them, because their visa status is tied to the employer. The employers have H1B workers on a leash. The process of hiring an H1B worker in short. - Hire an immigration lawyer. - Post an LCA. - Apply petition to USCIS…

or possibly Indians didn't get the diversity memo and are more likely to hire other Indians than the analogous instinct in white managers? It's odd that the suit alleges that white people are discriminated against relative to Indians yet those that are hired are paid more.

Post by toomuchtodo » Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 10:07 PM UTC

Trundle wrote: post #27

toomuchtodo wrote: post #16

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Corporations are not people my friend. They do not (and should not) have the same rights. EDIT: Going through my wife's underwear drawer is not the same as having to provide payroll data to enforce labor law. EDIT 2: If you're a government contractor, you have certain labor rights obligations, by law . If you violate those, the US government has the authority to pursue you. "The department in a complaint filed with a…

They are owned by people though and your wife's underwear drawer is not a person either.

Post by kyrra » Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 10:08 PM UTC

Infinitesimus wrote: post #7

> The department also said that during its investigation, which began in 2014, Oracle refused to provide relevant information about its pay practices. That's the part that doesn't help Oracle at all in this. If you really don't have anything to hide/cleanup, why avoid providing useful information for 2+ years? (Granted, 'relevant information' might be loosely defined here) Tangent: I know several employers use the co…

Post by Spooky23 » Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 10:10 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #15

Couple points: First, this is where the meat is: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170118-0 Second: "...Oracle nevertheless preferred Asian applications over other qualified applicants in the Professional Technical 1, Individual Contributor Job group and in the Product Development job group at statistically significant rates." [1] [1] https://www.dol.gov/sites/default/files/newsroom/newsrelease... --…

Post by Quanttek » Wed, Jan 18, 2017, 10:11 PM UTC

gozur88 wrote: post #9

eva1984 wrote: post #5

> technology company systematically paid its white, male employees more than other workers and unlawfully favored Asian applicants in its recruiting and hiring efforts. Wow...this is big.

And also not believable. The idea Oracle had a system that paid white guys more because they were white guys isn't credible without more than just salary evidence.