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Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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> It's valid, I believe, for the company to vet candidates for culture fit I don't really agree. I come from a traditional engineering background and consider myself a professional. As such, I expect to be judged on issues of professional decorum (i.e. what I would term an "asshole test"). That is part of culture, I suppose, but beyond that there should be no "fit" determination. This is especially true since this in…

It really depends on what "culture fit" means - lots of people have way different definitions. On the shitty side, there's people who mean something like "would I enjoy getting drinks with this person on a Friday night". On the actually reasonable side, there's "would I expect this person to use their initiative to find and solve problems while minimally supervised".

I suppose my definition of "professional" probably has different definitions from other people as well. I would expect the latter out of an experienced professional. I certainly have seen plenty of experienced people who would not do that, however.

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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This may be the case, but I'd guess the vast majority of software work is salary only. Having remote workers working as self-employed contractors should actually make the paperwork a lot easier for the company.

Unfortunately in some legal jurisdictions (e.g. the USA) this would not be allowed. You can't simply declare an employee to be self-employed and compensate them by means of invoices/1099 filings. This arrangement is only allowed if, among other things, the employee performs work for a number (greater than 1) of clients.

> This arrangement is only allowed if, among other things, the employee performs work for a number (greater than 1) of clients.

It's actually about capability, not actual number if clients; a contractor does not suddenly become an employee just because it doesn't have a second client at the moment. That said, you are right that legally hiring contractors is not nearly as easy as some people think it is.

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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This is definitely something that happens. It's valid, I believe, for the company to vet candidates for culture fit, but the go should not be hiring a team of "sames." In a recent batch of interviews (four opportunities local, three remote), I was put through a specific culture fit step of the interview process at all but one company, and it was part of all remote hiring processes.

> It's valid, I believe, for the company to vet candidates for culture fit I don't really agree. I come from a traditional engineering background and consider myself a professional. As such, I expect to be judged on issues of professional decorum (i.e. what I would term an "asshole test"). That is part of culture, I suppose, but beyond that there should be no "fit" determination. This is especially true since this in…

There is a major difference between "culture fit" and the ability to adapt. Both serve a distinct purpose and both are valid.

Someone's ability to adapt shows tactical proficiency. Particularly in an engineering environment I would put a high premium on tactical proficiency because the objectives are typically explicit and linear.

Culture fit speaks to traits like open-mindedness, inclusion and confidence in leadership. These are less linear, but no less important.

I would like to hear more from jcadam about the culture fit judgment he experienced. Was it really that you were not like them, or was it that you are from, and fit better with a different culture?

Culture fit isn't about listening to the same music, or what you do on a Friday night. It's a less tangible, but collective agreement about purpose and objective. I am from the Midwest (Ohio), and I have worked in Manhattan and Los Angeles over a couple of decades at a couple of different companies. I am aware of a distinct difference between East and West coast culture and thinking, and likewise, Ohio culture and thinking.

None of this is meant to judge superiority of any culture over another. Simply, if you are seeking to optimize an entire organization for the best possible results in working towards your objectives, culture fit is relevant.

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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It's becoming more and more likely that my next job will be remote.

First, let me qualify: I love my current job, and I don't want to leave it. I have no immediate plans to send my resume around to companies looking for remote employees. And when I do decide to go remote, I'll attempt to convince my boss to let me be a remote employee of this company before I start looking elsewhere (this is feasible: we have other remote employees, including technical ones, I have VPN access, and I do 99% of my work over ssh to servers located in a datacenter somewhere).

As for why this is coming up, the short version is that I'm transgender, I'm a Texan, and the Texas state legislature has been promising up and down that next spring they're going to ram through a transphobic bathroom bill. If they make good on that promise, I will have no choice but to either leave the state or kill myself, and I want to live. So I'll likely end up having to find work elsewhere next spring, unless I can convince my employer to let me go remote here.

I've lived in my hometown my entire life. I'm not sure where I want to move yet, and I'm not looking forward to travelling for interviews. In order to interview for a non-remote job in another state, I'll have to burn every ounce of PTO I have, plus I'd have to fly in order to interview, which is something I'd rather avoid because the TSA is notoriously hostile to trans people (they've been known to detain, abuse, and otherwise treat as criminals passengers who have both breasts and a penis, as their scanners flag us). I'd also be in a position of not really be able to choose where I move to. I have limited PTO and I'd have a pressing need to get out of the state ASAP. I can't afford to travel somewhere for an interview and then turn down an offer if I get one. So my only option will be to apply at as many companies in as many cities as I can (limited to cities in blue states, because burn me once...) and then take the first offer I get regardless of where it is.

But all that changes if I seek remote work instead. First off, interviewing will be less painful: I might be able to do phone interviews at lunch to avoid burning PTO, and even if I did have to take some time off, it might just be an hour or two in the morning instead of having to burn an entire day. Second, if I seek remote work, I can secure a job that won't require I stay in Texas first and then figure out where I want to move to. Hell, if my remote job pays enough to afford large amounts of travel and lodging costs, I could even try out different cities. I could take my laptop, spend a week in one city, and work out of my hotel room. A week or two later, I could repeat the process with a different city, and so on until I make a decision. Hell, aside from trying out different candidate cities, I could also use it as an excuse to visit my relatives who are scattered all over the country.

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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I've worked partially remote for the past two years. I had one horrid stint fully remote where they thought remote == 24 hour work days. There are pros and cons to remote. It depends on your team and their culture. Some teams need a whiteboard and planning sessions. Others can just do a screen share and work on a flow chart together. If your team and culture is capable of remote it's a really nice perk for employees.…

"I.E. coming over knocking on your desk asking a question, or pulling you in for a meeting."

I'm curious whether you find hipchat / slack to actually be less intrusive. In my experience, working from home can result in protracted text conversations causing me to stay less focused for longer periods of time. In the office, I can usually stop, take off the headphones, resolve their problem, refill my coffee and then get back to work in less time.

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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I've made a career out of remote work (10+ years working remotely), and I have to say this is a pretty poor article. No, remote work is not for everyone, you need to know what you are doing at both ends or it'll not match your expectations. No, it does not (necessarily) bring the best global talent, specially not if your motivation for remote is bringing down costs. And no, you don't need to use any of the tools list…

I agree. And I work remotely now. It seems the #1 requirement for remote work to work is ... mutual understanding. Otherwise you end up with communication gaps.

The case for VCS is interesting to me because I believe we could replace a number of complex tools in the stack with proper use and style on top of that.

Literally, we could do 90% of it all with just a VCS and people paying attention to it. You know: commit early, commit often, read commit messages, understand the code, run the tests. And so on and so forth...

Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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post #16

I've made a career out of remote work (10+ years working remotely), and I have to say this is a pretty poor article. No, remote work is not for everyone, you need to know what you are doing at both ends or it'll not match your expectations. No, it does not (necessarily) bring the best global talent, specially not if your motivation for remote is bringing down costs. And no, you don't need to use any of the tools list…

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Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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post #16

I've made a career out of remote work (10+ years working remotely), and I have to say this is a pretty poor article. No, remote work is not for everyone, you need to know what you are doing at both ends or it'll not match your expectations. No, it does not (necessarily) bring the best global talent, specially not if your motivation for remote is bringing down costs. And no, you don't need to use any of the tools list…

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Re: Why Remote Work Should Change Startup Culture

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I spent the last 7 years working remotely. Never been a problem. The way I see it personally, is that I would pay to work at home. The money I save on transport, the time, the dinners, clothes, forced social activities. Not having to stand in the rain for half a year, late trains, queues, peoples annoying faces..... The list of positives = endless

As someone that also works remote, it's not all roses and daisies. Communication can be very hard at times without someone there to manage it, keep everyone in the loop, and make sure nobody is left out. We go into the office once a week, and i've found that on those days, just being in the office lets me overhear conversations about things that I can offer a solution to, or having a few people in the same area shoot…

> As someone that also works remote, it's not all roses and daisies.

I spent the past two years working remote, and at this point I don't think I would ever want to do it again. Something I don't think I've ever really seen mentioned about working from home is that it can be incredibly isolating and overall mentally unhealthy. The isolation, lack of separation of work and home environment (in the physical sense), and even weird hours caused me to become very depressed and unstable.

In my case, my company was still located in-town and I even had weekly lunch/beer meetings. I pushed myself to get out and socialize with my friends, co-workers, and girlfriend several times a week. I still don't quite know what it is about working in an office with other people does that wasn't being replicated, but there's something there for me.

As far as the physical environment goes, I spent enough time reading different folks strategies. I tried many different strategies as well. I tried having normal office hours and a normal (home) office. I tried just floating about the house, working wherever I felt like. I tried working from coffee shops, bars, parks, and so forth. I tried working in blocks of time, all at once, having an inverted sleep schedule. As mentioned, I even had an actual company office I could work from. Still, I came to have a certain feeling of disdain, of wanting to escape the office at the end of a day of work. The only problem was my office was my home. You can't run from that.

I will say the convenience of having a flexible schedule is amazing. Being able to run errands as needed, or just go to the beach for a couple hours on a Tuesday because "why not" is great. However I always felt a bit weird about things, because "normal" people are in an office that I'm somehow doing something weird or wrong by being out and about during non-traditional hours. And of course among your friends and family there's always a little gentle chiding about how "You don't really work/have a real job", in a semi-jealous but not actually hostile way.

Working from home can be great, and I would enjoy the flexibility to do it a day here and there as needed. What I cannot do is work from home permanently.

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