I don't get it. I mean, sure, the technology is cool. They have some kind of spatial tree with temporal information added to individual nodes so they can detect nearby bumps. I find that somewhat interesting (but there are more interesting problems abound). But as an actual application, what? Maybe it's just because I don't have a phone. I don't see how it's much easier than just scrolling through a contacts list-- w…
Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
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Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is that it is an easier way to connect with someone. And it may not be for everyone, but lots of people are bumping money already. We don't know whether they are doing that because it is easier, more fun, or the only option at the time. But they are doing it and that is what matters to us. :) There is this broader problem we are trying to solve: you are standing right next to me and I want to give you somet…
I think I may have portrayed my view wrong, then. I don't have problem with the "bump" thing as a generic interaction. I can see it as a very handy way of doing certain things, like playing a game with a friend. At the moment I'd have to look for all nearby phones(/DSes, etc.) and figure out which one is my friend. Just nodding our phones together seems a great improvement. There are tons of other things I imagine it…
Are you sure you aren't just trolling?
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
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PayPal is licensing the technology from us. Anyone can by do the same at http://bu.mp/api . For most people it is free to license.
http://bu.mp/apideveloper.html is giving me a 500 internal error; its not a nice break either. spewing some errors instead of a generic page.
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
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I think I may have portrayed my view wrong, then. I don't have problem with the "bump" thing as a generic interaction. I can see it as a very handy way of doing certain things, like playing a game with a friend. At the moment I'd have to look for all nearby phones(/DSes, etc.) and figure out which one is my friend. Just nodding our phones together seems a great improvement. There are tons of other things I imagine it…
I often don't have the exact cash I need to give someone. Do you? Are you sure you aren't just trolling?
And, yes, I'm pretty sure I honestly believe that this isn't useful, and that I'm not making this belief up to start a fight. Why would I be confused on this matter?
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is that it is an easier way to connect with someone. And it may not be for everyone, but lots of people are bumping money already. We don't know whether they are doing that because it is easier, more fun, or the only option at the time. But they are doing it and that is what matters to us. :) There is this broader problem we are trying to solve: you are standing right next to me and I want to give you somet…
I think I may have portrayed my view wrong, then. I don't have problem with the "bump" thing as a generic interaction. I can see it as a very handy way of doing certain things, like playing a game with a friend. At the moment I'd have to look for all nearby phones(/DSes, etc.) and figure out which one is my friend. Just nodding our phones together seems a great improvement. There are tons of other things I imagine it…
Some people think this is a great idea, others not. Only time will tell. We would love for it to be successful, but have a lot of other things in the works as well. ;)
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
#36I don't get it. I mean, sure, the technology is cool. They have some kind of spatial tree with temporal information added to individual nodes so they can detect nearby bumps. I find that somewhat interesting (but there are more interesting problems abound). But as an actual application, what? Maybe it's just because I don't have a phone. I don't see how it's much easier than just scrolling through a contacts list-- w…
At the risk of sounding flamebait - you don't have a phone? What made you even want to comment on a post like this?
Do I actually have the experience necessary to judge this? Well obviously I think so. I know what a phone is. I have used cell phones before. I have used cell phone apps before. I have developed cell phone apps before. I thought this was enough. I did, however, for my sake and the sake of the reader, point out my own status in case I'm being stupid (which is a strong possibility, particularly since I can't actually try the app out for myself, and the article may be (was?) misleading).
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
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I think I may have portrayed my view wrong, then. I don't have problem with the "bump" thing as a generic interaction. I can see it as a very handy way of doing certain things, like playing a game with a friend. At the moment I'd have to look for all nearby phones(/DSes, etc.) and figure out which one is my friend. Just nodding our phones together seems a great improvement. There are tons of other things I imagine it…
The theory is that there are lots of transactions where you do not have cash or check (or would prefer not to use them). Some examples: your friend owes you money but does not have cash (yes, it does happen). You order food with coworkers and do not have cash (or change, we bump to pay people back for lunch almost every day). Or you are buying something off craigslist and want the security of PayPal rather than just…
Such is the case, I guess, for pretty much everything. Bump itself replaces things that already exist, but in its case it seems like it can do clearly better with few barriers to adoption (e.g. games), while with the paypal scheme it's not so clear. My reactionary tendencies pick up, "don't fix it if it ain't broke". But, you're right, time will tell. Just because the existing solutions seem perfectly fine doesn't mean Paypal's system won't become easy enough and commonplace enough for everyday use. Because, yes, it does have some advantages.
It still seems so pointless to me, but then I guess, so do/did a lot of established things.
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
#38I've never used bump, but what happens if I am bumping in close proximity to two other phones bumping? Anyone ever play with distance thresholds? How close do you actually have to be when you "bump" for it to make a match?
Read the article.
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
#39I don't get it. I mean, sure, the technology is cool. They have some kind of spatial tree with temporal information added to individual nodes so they can detect nearby bumps. I find that somewhat interesting (but there are more interesting problems abound). But as an actual application, what? Maybe it's just because I don't have a phone. I don't see how it's much easier than just scrolling through a contacts list-- w…
Your contacts list might not contain your friend's PayPal email address, or it might not contain an email address at all. Bumping creates a unique identifier that connects all parties and their PayPal accounts where no such identifier previously existed. It is useful.
Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite
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I think the smart thing about it is the workaround it provides for phones that don't have NFC functionality. NFC penetration is going to be way behind accelerometers for a while yet. Could be a good opportunity for mid-range/low-end handsets too. Use cases - hmmm. Maybe the security of Paypal when buying things off Gumtree, a used car etc could be the benefit.
Having been around long enough to remember when nearly every PDA supported IrDA, I'd agree that the whole bump thingy seems like one really complicated (but very clever!) workaround.