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Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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All of the press implies that this lets you make payments by bumping phones. If you have actually used the application, you will see that all it does is send the person's email address to you.

Because Bump is not deterministic(ie, you could get a random person's contact info if you are say in an auditorium at SXSW), you still have to confirm that this is the contact you want. Overall, it probably takes more time than just typing the email in, and then you have to go through the normal payment flow anyway. There would be value if it transfered the entire vcard to your address book at the same time since this might be a lot of info.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One advantage is that I don't have to have your contact information, and I don't have to type out your email address.

So then have the "bump" action exchange contact information. Why limit it to something that has been solved for centuries? Transferring money to people you don't know is traditionally done with cash. Transferring contact information is generally more painful.

It does, that is the first/primary function of the app. This is just talking about a PayPal implementation of their API.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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I don't get it. I mean, sure, the technology is cool. They have some kind of spatial tree with temporal information added to individual nodes so they can detect nearby bumps. I find that somewhat interesting (but there are more interesting problems abound). But as an actual application, what? Maybe it's just because I don't have a phone. I don't see how it's much easier than just scrolling through a contacts list-- w…

The point is that it is an easier way to connect with someone. And it may not be for everyone, but lots of people are bumping money already. We don't know whether they are doing that because it is easier, more fun, or the only option at the time. But they are doing it and that is what matters to us. :) There is this broader problem we are trying to solve: you are standing right next to me and I want to give you somet…

I think I may have portrayed my view wrong, then. I don't have problem with the "bump" thing as a generic interaction. I can see it as a very handy way of doing certain things, like playing a game with a friend. At the moment I'd have to look for all nearby phones(/DSes, etc.) and figure out which one is my friend. Just nodding our phones together seems a great improvement. There are tons of other things I imagine it would be great for.

I do have a problem with its use for transferring money. It just seems pointless. That's what cash is for, and paypal is most useful because I can use it where cash is not an option. I don't see any benefit to using this kind of interaction here.

For it to be useful, we have to be in the same room, I'd have to not have any cash or cheques, or alternatively be required to use paypal. It also has to be something that has to happen soon, or else I could get cash later or use paypal regularly or something rather than going through the effort of us taking out our phones and looking like goofs. We also both have to already have the relevant app installed, with a compatible model of phone. I actually have to make sure of this, too-- I have to ask, "hey do you have that paypal app", etc., which takes more time. This is a situation I do not foresee happening very often at all. There are just so many limiting factors, and it's just so easy to have enough cash in my wallet.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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I've never used bump, but what happens if I am bumping in close proximity to two other phones bumping? Anyone ever play with distance thresholds? How close do you actually have to be when you "bump" for it to make a match?

Read the article.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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I have to agree with you. It seems like a tremendous waste of resources, listening to and algorithmically calculating when, where, and between whom these transactions occur. Seems like it's simply wrapping a transaction in an entirely extraneous layer with no visible benefit.

I think the smart thing about it is the workaround it provides for phones that don't have NFC functionality. NFC penetration is going to be way behind accelerometers for a while yet. Could be a good opportunity for mid-range/low-end handsets too. Use cases - hmmm. Maybe the security of Paypal when buying things off Gumtree, a used car etc could be the benefit.

Having been around long enough to remember when nearly every PDA supported IrDA, I'd agree that the whole bump thingy seems like one really complicated (but very clever!) workaround.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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This reminds me of the original PayPal idea (paying a friend via Palm Pilot in person).

I liked that feature. My coworkers and I would use it to settle up with each other when we went out for lunch. I never knew why they discontinued it.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think paypal bought it from them.

PayPal is licensing the technology from us. Anyone can by do the same at http://bu.mp/api . For most people it is free to license.

http://bu.mp/apideveloper.html

is giving me a 500 internal error; its not a nice break either. spewing some errors instead of a generic page.

Re: Paypal Adds Innovative ‘Bump’ To Mobile Payment Suite

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This reminds me of the original PayPal idea (paying a friend via Palm Pilot in person).

I liked that feature. My coworkers and I would use it to settle up with each other when we went out for lunch. I never knew why they discontinued it.

Max Levchin talks about this in jl's Founders At Work. They made the web app mostly as a place to offer the Palm Pilot app for download, but it took off much to everyone's surprise.

IIRC, when they finally abandoned the Palm Pilot app it had 12k active users vs. millions using the web app. So as much as the Palm Pilot app was their baby, it was an easy decision.

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