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Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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I own the Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu smartphone. And I like it.

This is actually my first smartphone, so my perspective may be somewhat different from that of the reviews of it out there. I am a software engineer, and I greatly value the freedom to do whatever I want with computing devices I own, and to be able to tweak things and contribute any enhancements back to the community.

If something irks me and I can fix it, I will submit a patch (i.e., as a drive-by contributor), otherwise I will file a bug report and help reproduce the issue. Nothing major, no huge time-sink; just being able to help shape the software that surrounds us, and having a feeling of contributing to something bigger than a single corporation. So naturally I use a flavour of GNU/Linux on my computer.

I already use Ubuntu on my desktop and laptop computers (both professionally and private), so the Ubuntu smartphone seems like a good shot at getting something that can potentially near the freedom I have on desktop Linux, and thus far I am not disappointed.

A smartphone for me is a way to get information on-the-go. For things like public transport itineraries, weather forecasts, and navigation Ubuntu Touch already suffices.

The big 'issue' of course is apps. Ubuntu Touch has its own store with a growing number of free software apps, and some proprietary stuff. Most of the basic apps I expect are there, mostly pre-installed. Big name apps are missing though — there is no WhatsApp for instance. Now for my opinion on this topic, which may very well be an unpopular minority view:

To me, this lack of big name proprietary apps is just fine and exactly what I want. The term 'app' is ambiguous at best and I feel that it is a threat to software freedom. To illustrate: A simple stand-alone off-line calculator is called an 'app', but so i a web-service accessible exclusively with proprietary software like WhatsApp. That is, an 'app' in common parlance is not just the piece of software you install on your device, it is also the infrastructure backing it. In the case of the extremely popular WhatsApp, you need their software to be able to access their service. It appears to be illegal to create a free software client that can talk to their service, unlike, say, email (SMTP, IMAP, etc.). That's fine, its their service, their rules, I prefer to make due without.

I don't want a computing device filled with a bunch of proprietary clients for day-to-day tasks. If you offer a great service, offer a great web-app to use it with (I already have a capable browser installed), or (re)use or create an open protocol anyone can use. Otherwise, I'll just do without. If your business model depends on me installing a piece of proprietary software, I am not interested.

Other than that, there is still plenty of rough edges. It is not trivial (though possible) to install the normal software packages from Ubuntu's repositories, but on the other hand, I have not had the need yet. I do sorely miss Firefox with uBlock Origin though! Ads on websites seem even more intrusive than on the desktop.

If I had to summarize the threats to Ubuntu Touch's future I would say that it sometimes feels as if there are not enough core developers working on the product, but that may be just the impression I got from the issues I have reported.

Canonical seems to bet on being able to get Ubuntu Touch entrenched in developing countries, but I doubt that that strategy will pay off (although I am not knowledgeable enough on that topic to make a firm statement about this). If they can manage to make Ubuntu Touch synonymous with the easy to use and obtain free operating system for smartphones (the way Ubuntu is for desktop computers) they may have a good chance at winning the hearts of software developers with a preference for free software — that is the niche I would bet on.

The lack of apps in the way of Android and IOS is of course problematic in the current app-economy driven smartphone world, and will prevent major adoption of Ubuntu Touch for some time to come, but it may be that I am not alone in my dismissal of this reliance on proprietary apps.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#32
I bought a OnePlus 3 for the reason that it will be a well supported Ubuntu Touch phone [0]. It allows me dip the toe into the water with Ubuntu Touch while keeping Android as a backup. The 6 GB RAM of the OnePlus3 may well prove to be useful after all ;)

[0] http://techpp.com/2016/06/17/oneplus-3-ubuntu-touch-os/

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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> Over the past year and a half I have become accustomed to the idea that I get to run free applications on my phone in exchange for being shown semi-frequent ads. This tended not to bother me most of the time, except when Android apps would suddenly show me full screen videos at high volume. Really? I installed AdAway [1] on my Android phone and since then I have seen no ads. Zero. The only issue is that some legiti…

Huh. I've just never installed any ad-based applications. If there's a no-ad paid version for a buck or two I'll buy it, otherwise, I just don't use it.

How did you know which apps have ads? Until recently it was not shown anywhere I think?

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried Mint lately? It's been mighty fine distribution the last years.

It seems to have a poor reputation for security, though.

It does, I don't think that affects it much, though, because it's still so much less likely to catch a virus on Mint than it is on Windows, that it's still an upgrade for people switching over from Windows, which is sort of Mint's target user-base anyways.

They've also done some work on security with their latest release, mainly making kernel-updates more accessible...

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh. I've just never installed any ad-based applications. If there's a no-ad paid version for a buck or two I'll buy it, otherwise, I just don't use it.

How did you know which apps have ads? Until recently it was not shown anywhere I think?

Play Store comments, magazines and web sites that review applications?

I never install anything that hasn't been reviewed.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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> About 1GB of memory is required to run the phone with its default scopes and settings, leaving us about 2GB of space for applications and other features. I did not see this coming. I was under the impression that moving away from a JVM would have lowered the memory requirements. A comparison of the two versions of Meizu Pro 5, Android and Ubuntu, would have been useful too. I am curious if the move away from the An…

Likewise, how on earth do you manage to make Linux use 1GB of RAM without running Java or some sort of large, memory optimised database?

JavaScript, QML and Go.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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How does distrowatch gets the "page hits" for all the distros's websites? or are those "page hits" initiated from within distrowatch? (surprised to see Mint at the top)

Mint gets recommended a lot for people wanting to switch over from Windows. I'd say even more recommendations than Ubuntu, because of the more Windows-like interface.

Also just in general, Ubuntu is more well-known outside of the Linux-microcosm, so people don't need to look it up as much, and the more advanced distros like Debian, Fedora, openSUSE probably don't get looked up as much, because if you want to switch to one of those, you usually already know why you want to use them.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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> About 1GB of memory is required to run the phone with its default scopes and settings, leaving us about 2GB of space for applications and other features. I did not see this coming. I was under the impression that moving away from a JVM would have lowered the memory requirements. A comparison of the two versions of Meizu Pro 5, Android and Ubuntu, would have been useful too. I am curious if the move away from the An…

Likewise, how on earth do you manage to make Linux use 1GB of RAM without running Java or some sort of large, memory optimised database?

Twenty years ago we linuxheads poked fun at Irix for starting 36 daemons on a singleuser workstation. Or was it 43? Whatever the number, I guess ubuntu has caught up.
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