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DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

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Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#11
post #4

I do miss my Nokia n900 running Maemo, this might be as close to a replacement as it'll get. Just need a phone with a good built in keyboard.

Have you checked Jolla [1] with a keyboard other half ?

[1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-o...

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#12
post #5

How does distrowatch gets the "page hits" for all the distros's websites? or are those "page hits" initiated from within distrowatch? (surprised to see Mint at the top)

I think they are counting how often the distro subpage on Distrowatch is accessed.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#13

I hope the ubuntu phone fulfills the promise that FirefoxOS had. FFOS was killed due to a spiral of very low spec hardware and no real third-party development. Being able to hack on the phone using scripts at a moment's notice is not something any phone currently provides.

I wonder if we could put FFOS on this phone. I still think the FF model of "everything is a web page" would lead to a pretty magical end goal, first set out by Smalltalk VMs. But I am not using a phone with a laggy keyboard.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#14
post #6

> About 1GB of memory is required to run the phone with its default scopes and settings, leaving us about 2GB of space for applications and other features. I did not see this coming. I was under the impression that moving away from a JVM would have lowered the memory requirements. A comparison of the two versions of Meizu Pro 5, Android and Ubuntu, would have been useful too. I am curious if the move away from the An…

According to the Verge [1] : "The most powerful Ubuntu phone is still not good enough, The Meizu Pro 5 has the Galaxy S6's processor, but not its performance"

[1] : http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/23/11097126/meizu-pro-5-ubunt...

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#15
post #6

> About 1GB of memory is required to run the phone with its default scopes and settings, leaving us about 2GB of space for applications and other features. I did not see this coming. I was under the impression that moving away from a JVM would have lowered the memory requirements. A comparison of the two versions of Meizu Pro 5, Android and Ubuntu, would have been useful too. I am curious if the move away from the An…

As of Android 5, there is only ART, which is no different than using Go, D, or any other AOT compiled language with a GC enabled runtime.

Also many Scopes are actually written in either JavaScript, or QML with C++ and Go as possible code-behind languages.

https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/scopes/

So overall the runtime requirements aren't much different, unless you are writing a pure Qt/C++ scope (without QML).

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#16
post #13

I hope the ubuntu phone fulfills the promise that FirefoxOS had. FFOS was killed due to a spiral of very low spec hardware and no real third-party development. Being able to hack on the phone using scripts at a moment's notice is not something any phone currently provides.

I wonder if we could put FFOS on this phone. I still think the FF model of "everything is a web page" would lead to a pretty magical end goal, first set out by Smalltalk VMs. But I am not using a phone with a laggy keyboard.

Smalltalk used "everything is native".

As someone that used Smalltalk, HTML/CSS with JavaScript glue surely isn't what Smalltalk had for its GUI.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#17
post #6

> About 1GB of memory is required to run the phone with its default scopes and settings, leaving us about 2GB of space for applications and other features. I did not see this coming. I was under the impression that moving away from a JVM would have lowered the memory requirements. A comparison of the two versions of Meizu Pro 5, Android and Ubuntu, would have been useful too. I am curious if the move away from the An…

Ubuntu Touch actually runs parts of Android in the LXC container. Maybe this is why is not very memory efficient.

https://developer.ubuntu.com/static/devportal_uploaded/13698...

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#18
post #4

I do miss my Nokia n900 running Maemo, this might be as close to a replacement as it'll get. Just need a phone with a good built in keyboard.

Have you checked Jolla [1] with a keyboard other half ? [1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-o...

Seemed lke a good idea, but unfortunately:

FAQs to which the answer is no:

    Can I order?
    Can I get TOHKBD?
    Are you sad to close the store?
    ...
    TOHKBD? Can I buy?
I'm also in the market for a high-spec smartphone with hardware keyboard but the only realy candidate was the Blackberry PRIV. However it has an encrypted bootloader with no ability to bypass, so not an option.

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#19
> Over the past year and a half I have become accustomed to the idea that I get to run free applications on my phone in exchange for being shown semi-frequent ads. This tended not to bother me most of the time, except when Android apps would suddenly show me full screen videos at high volume.

Really? I installed AdAway [1] on my Android phone and since then I have seen no ads. Zero.

The only issue is that some legitimate apps don't work, because they pull content from sits which are blacklisted (mostly stock ticker apps). I feel that's a small price to pay for not having battery and data sucking ads during my phone experience.

Yes, it requires root to install the hosts file. That's basically a one time event (I rarely update the list and still never see ads) and the battery impact is none because the ad blocking works at DNS level (as opposed to say, a system-wide proxy)

[1] https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=Adaway&fdid=...

Re: DistroWatch Ubuntu Phone review

#20
post #5

How does distrowatch gets the "page hits" for all the distros's websites? or are those "page hits" initiated from within distrowatch? (surprised to see Mint at the top)

Tried Mint lately? It's been mighty fine distribution the last years.

It seems to have a poor reputation for security, though.
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