"The greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects; In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/t...
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I downvoted your comment because a. It's pure snark b. Introduced race into the discussion for no reason c. Did not address any of the actual points made by the OP
You are certainly entitled to do that. Isn't race a factor in this discussion of diversity? https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=61 83% of college professors are white (so am I by the way). Do you think I care about my reputation on this site enough to cover my mouth when I hear another blatant attempt to inspire sympathy when none is due? If you think race is not a factor in this kind of discussion then you…
And, really, this is not a discussion about race? Are you kidding me? The first sentence in the article is:
> Many universities are redoubling their efforts to diversify their faculties in response to last fall’s wave of protests from student groups representing women and minorities.
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#33I think it's fair to discriminate (in the literal sense) based on factors people can affect or change, like political affiliation, but not based on factors that people can't change, like race. [1] That said, if you're touting your commitment to diversity, you really should be seeking out, y'know, diversity . Including lots of different kinds of people is a multifaceted endeavor. [1] I know it's not legal to discrimin…
Imagine if the keys to academic success were that you needed to believe that blue is the best color. There is nothing intrinsic about blue being the best color, and a good argument could be made that green is the best color. But, everyone who holds the keys to the kingdom of academic success think that blue is the best color, and won't let anyone in who thinks green is the best color. Do you think that system is "fai…
This is a false equivalency because no intelligent adult believes that any color is inherently superior, whereas many intelligent adults do believe that certain political beliefs are inherently superior.
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#34Once I opened the link, I found that the kind of diversity he was talking about was political (although I couldn't read it since it was behind a paywall). As an academic, my first thought was, "bullshit. There are tons of conservatives in business schools." Imagine my surprise when the author is a professor in a business school: http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/Newindex.html Imagine my further shock when I fi…
As an academic, my first thought was, "bullshit. There are tons of conservatives in business schools."
Huh? That's it?
The only place for conservatives at a University is in its business school?
That clearly illustrates the point the article was making!
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#35Stalin
Yes, it seems reasonable to compare me to a dictator who was responsible for millions of deaths.
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#36I've never heard of a single institution specifying the kind of the diversity that they want. Just "diversity". What about intellectual diversity? Why doesn't Harvard accept people from a diverse range of SAT scores? It makes me wonder if these institutions actually accept the ideology they claim to embrace, or if they just use buzzwords and do the bare minimum so they're not labeled bigots.
>Why doesn't Harvard accept people from a diverse range of SAT scores They do http://features.thecrimson.com/2015/freshman-survey/makeup-n... "Respondents who identify as Asian, but not including South Asian, reported higher overall SAT scores on average, with an overall best score of 2300 out of a possible 2400. The average best overall SAT score reported by white respondents was 2218; 2174 for respondents who are H…
A range of 2149-2300 doesn't quite strike me as diverse.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imagine if the keys to academic success were that you needed to believe that blue is the best color. There is nothing intrinsic about blue being the best color, and a good argument could be made that green is the best color. But, everyone who holds the keys to the kingdom of academic success think that blue is the best color, and won't let anyone in who thinks green is the best color. Do you think that system is "fai…
This is a false equivalency because no intelligent adult believes that any color is inherently superior, whereas many intelligent adults do believe that certain political beliefs are inherently superior.
Blue is obviously superior because of its wider variety of uses. Blue is a much more popular color for cars than green. Blues are much more rare in nature than greens, because blues are harder to recreate due to their superior qualities.
Perhaps these intelligence adults aren't that intelligent after all. If you think you are so smart think that you and 50% of other people have figured it all out, and the 50% of other people are just idiots, then maybe you aren't that intelligent after all.
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#38Stalin
This combination of name-calling and low-substance comment is the kind of thing we ban people for. Please (re-)read the HN guidelines and post civilly and substantively or not at all.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11532005 and marked it off-topic.
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#39Stalin
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are certainly entitled to do that. Isn't race a factor in this discussion of diversity? https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=61 83% of college professors are white (so am I by the way). Do you think I care about my reputation on this site enough to cover my mouth when I hear another blatant attempt to inspire sympathy when none is due? If you think race is not a factor in this kind of discussion then you…
And, really, this is not a discussion about race? Are you kidding me? The first sentence in the article is: > Many universities are redoubling their efforts to diversify their faculties in response to last fall’s wave of protests from student groups representing women and minorities.
Re race - no.
OP argument is not that minorities should be substituted with conservatives (that would indeed be race-related). Rather that diversity should not be constrained to only two axes of race and gender.