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Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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That's not an axiom, it's just an opinion. Personally, I find passion pretty compelling to read/hear, and I won't present my side with a false posture of academic distance if that's not how I feel. Additionally, I'm not really interested in winning over the people who are more concerned with the tone of an argument than the actual facts presented.

Well, exhorting the choir is very satisfying, of course, and I can see the tactical benefit in so doing to the exclusion of any attempt to increase the size of the congregation. This does, of course, imply an abandonment of any desire to find a modus vivendi , but the impression I have is that such abandonment is more or less implicit.

Thank you for descending from the mountaintop to dispense your advice to such a lowly thinker as I, great wise sage.

(That was sarcasm. Opinions are not facts, and condescension does not signal wisdom.)

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Just read the PDF, and it's an interesting and reasonable perspective on tech. Probably sounds blasphemous to an audience excited about investments/acquisitions of $15M, $30M and $1.54 billion (from HN's current front page), but I think techies are due for a reasonable backlash for their usual servility to power, by people concerned about their society.

With respect, you are wrong. It's neither interesting nor reasonable, and indeed is barely coherent. Gentrification is a real problem, with inequality at it's roots. I think most people would agree with that. And I'd also agree that it's easy for some in the tech community to lose touch with the relative privilege that they often live in. But this is not a "reasonable backlash" – it's a bunch of incoherent knee-jerk…

Gentrification is a really complex problem that is superficially bandied about. While it involves changes they are not all negative and the net impact on existing residents is very situation.

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-ge...

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Right. It is important to cast this protestor out rather than try to understand their perspective. Thats the kind of response that has no consequences. No defense is possible for the truly evil and nonviolent behavior of that sinister protestor.

Wait, what? I'm not sure which levels of sarcasm you are applying to which parts of your post. Do you think there are real negative consequences to casting out this moron? Morons are going to find things to protest. Some address real issues, others invent issues, or build them out of poor research. It's generally a good thing to ignore the latter.

If violence is on the line, I think it's important to listen; even they're morons.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Is this serious or supposed to be satire or something? Cause it reads like something a deranged person would write to me... Making comments about how Google employees automatically bring police, "All of Google's employees should be prevented from getting to work", etc. Yeah they do bring police.. to deal with nutjobs that decide to randomly show up at their houses and stop them from working, stop a bus in the middle…

Political theatre, for its own sake, is a very effective way of attracting press coverage and staying in the news. Has been a go-to in the radical playbook for nearly a century now.

Yes but it's not good coverage.

Re: Demonstration at Home of Google Developer. Google Bus Blocked in Berkeley

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Here is the person who is organizing the bus protests. I'm not sure if she was involved in this particular demonstration: http://www.erinmcelroy.net/resume.html

That's just as bad as the protesters who show on the doorstep of a Google engineer. Attack the action and not the person. In this case you don't even know if that person is the one involved in this action.

No, it wasn't an attack. I was simply curious about who was organizing these protests, as I'm sure a lot of people are.
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