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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by aaron695 »

drcode wrote: post #268
aaron695 wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> NEWSFLASH: If you're doing something specifically to get attention, it's possible the attention you get might not be to your liking. What on earth was he doing to get attention? He was doing a job. If you are writing stories for people in a park, a typewriter is probably the best way to do it, how else would you? How was he trying for attention any more than the ice cream van I'm sure was down the road? Since when…

I don't know if you've ever had to do any significant writing on a manual typewriter, but it is a very difficult process. It would much, much easier to write it out long hand (he has great hand writing, as can be seen on his sign.). Even better would be to write it up o a laptop, let the customer view it on the screen, then email it to them later. Or, write it up on a phone with a $20 Bluetooth keyboard and email it…

You seriously think you can't type on a typewriter?

As to doing it electronicly, he deals with that issue, a electronic story email would have little value to most people. ---------------- My favorite exchange was between “I_thrive_on_apathy” and “dlins”:

i_thrive_on_apathy: What the fuck is he going to do with that typed page? Scan it?

Dlins: you do realize things have value even if they're not digitized, right?

i_thrive_on_apathy: Huh? ------------------------------

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by brokenparser »

notReallyGuy wrote: post #240
brokenparser wrote: post #89

(Emphasis mine) ..it was dozens of someones—*faceless and impossible to control* Strike 1. I asked...if she would *let me read a draft before she sent it* to her editor... ...I ranted back to her, *mad that she hadn’t sent me the article* Strike 2. ...the hipster label is a compliment, a devotion to a *self- evident truth* Strike 3. This guy isn't hipster, he's sinister.

Please explain how the internet is not populated a teeming mass of faceless opportunists, deliberately avoiding any and all efforts to be controlled. You are fucking wrong. Your fragments in strike two are literally paragraphs apart, and ignore huge details that add context. But even so, there's nothing evil about asking someone you know personally, when they've openly told you they're going to write about you, if yo…

Please turn off your computer, go outside, and have some fresh air. Your health is important to me regardless of how often you create a new account just to pull an XKCD 386 with foul language.

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Post by GrinningFool »

pyrocat wrote: post #161
agentultra wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane . They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. You're busy cultivating a sense of identity, I get it. But more often than not you grow up and find yourself in love with som…

Ageism is dumb, and I rally against it now as an adult as much as I did when I was 15. > "but I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag" Maybe that's because you surround yourself with people who have similar outlooks? That doesn't mean that all people over 30 are above high school bullshit. And it certainly doesn't mean that…

When I was under 30 or so I was ageist - I felt that most under 28 or so had a long way to go before they become human beings. Obviously, I was the exception to that rule, but even at that age I knew that my contemporaries lacked in maturity.

Except... then I reached my 30s. And realized that I was not, in fact, an exception to that rule. I was perhaps worse, because I was aware of it and somehow thought I was above it.

Now I'm closer to 40 than 35, and haven't seen anything to change my mind. The majority of twenty-something people I encounter in life and online - no matter how intelligent and capable - are still maturing well into their late 20s. Just as I was, even while convinced that I was not.

I'm nicer about it now, though. I realize it's probably physiological.

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Post by InclinedPlane »

benched wrote: post #113
revelation wrote: post #17

The website she referred to had a series of essays they dubbed “It Happened To Me” that they sprinkled in amongst feminist-leaning news and features. “I want to talk about how all of this makes me feel. You, all over the Internet, right after you dumped me.” Does that seem bizarrely self absorbed to anyone else?

I can definitely relate to the feeling. For a full 1.5 years after my ex and I broke up, it felt like my friends were being deliberately cruel, first by continuing to involve her in various events, then by continuously posting about stuff they were doing with her on facebook. For a long time, it felt like they were actively trying to push me out of the picture or drive me to jump. The only difference is, this woman w…

Did you do things with your friends too during that time? Maybe it's just that for them it's less awkward to hang out with either one of you than it is for you two to hang out with each other, and they didn't realize that talking about it on facebook would be awkward for you.

Don't you think it would be a bit demanding on your part if you wanted your friends to stop hanging out with and being friends with your ex? Maybe you should figure out how to get closure on your relationship and move forward in a healthy manner rather than hoping that the rest of the world will coddle and protect a wound that only you could possibly understand or be responsible for.

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Post by superuser2 »

sp332 wrote: post #42

I'm not claiming to have much fashion sense, but how is wearing giant plastic glasses "sincerity"? Is it about self-expression? What sentiment do huge glasses express? The reaction, then, had nothing to do with hipsters... they hated me because I looked like I was nakedly desperate for attention, and had gone about that attention-grabbing by glomming on to marginalized trends. I thought that was the whole reason peop…

Large glasses cover a larger portion of your visual field and you don't have blurry areas to the top and bottom of the frame.

They're not sincerity, but why the fuck do you care? Why is it okay to dislike someone because their glasses are too large for your taste?

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Post by ahoge »

Opinions on the internet are always extremely distorted. It's not like a survey where you make a bunch of random people answer some questions. It's several cycles of selection bias and network effects. It's kinda bizarre, actually.

In general, most people are indifferent. They won't feel compelled to comment on it. Naturally, you only get comments by people who have a sufficiently strong opinion on that particular topic. If you now add voting to the mix, you emphasize this distortion even more.

Now, the reason why it works this way is because it makes it interesting to those who participate in these discussions. That's the primary goal: encouraging user interaction.

It does not paint an objective picture of the community's opinion.

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When I first saw that image about a year ago, I just thought he tried to create a distraction-free environment on a low budget.

I had no reason to comment on it.

If I had commented on it, my comment wouldn't have received many upvotes, because it wouldn't be aligned with this particular audience. That is, those who'd feel compelled to comment on this kind of picture.

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Post by pessimizer »

chris_wot wrote: post #282
pessimizer wrote: post #214

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I was really impressed by that observation, and I thought that the article was going to turn in a pleasant way that I wasn't expecting. Sadly, instead of wondering why someone of a different perspective could think that of him, he continues: "The experience of being labeled and then cast aside made me realize that what many people call 'hipsterism' or, what they perceive as a slavish devotion to irony, are often in f…

"Sadly, instead of wondering why someone of a different perspective could think that of him..." So it's his fault that people were nasty and hated on him? Way to go - blaming the victim much?

I literally wanted to end my comment by talking about "haters" and the people who talk about "haters" in a very nasty way, but since the guy I was criticizing didn't refer to "haters," I felt that was unfair and putting words in his mouth.

To not rant: the fact that someone criticizes you is not a sign of a quality that they hold of being a criticizer, When people criticize you, they are criticizing you, and if you feel that that makes them a criticizer, it's because you define other individuals in terms of yourself.

Instead, pretend that someone is telling you how they see you from their perspective, and decide whether their perception is distorted, or if you just have to eat it and accept it, and reflect.

>So it's his fault that people were nasty and hated on him?

Depends what you mean by fault. If somebody hates fox hunting, and I hunt a fox, is it my fault that people are upset with me? I'm just living my life how I want to live it. What does fault even mean? If you're a shitty singer, singing on the street outside of my apartment, and I stick my head out of the window and yell at you that you suck and should shut up, is it your fault that I told you you suck? What does that mean? Am I a hater?

>blaming the victim much?

The victim of being upset that people on twitter and reddit didn't like him? Cry me a river.

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Post by sp332 »

eshvk wrote: post #248
sp332 wrote: post #42

I'm not claiming to have much fashion sense, but how is wearing giant plastic glasses "sincerity"? Is it about self-expression? What sentiment do huge glasses express? The reaction, then, had nothing to do with hipsters... they hated me because I looked like I was nakedly desperate for attention, and had gone about that attention-grabbing by glomming on to marginalized trends. I thought that was the whole reason peop…

Let me approach this problem logically. What does sincerity mean? Would you say a man wearing a $2000 dollar suit was being sincere? What if I told you the suit was custom made bespoke and it took eight months to make? Would that be sincere or pretentious? Why is wearing something about expressing a sentiment that you need to be aware of? Maybe the person's sentiment is for their sake?

While there are some clothing choices that could be sincere, what I meant is that I don't understand what those clothes sincerely are. I thought skinny jeans were a recurring fad, and the big glasses were fashionable or meant to get attention or something.

For your other questions, I think someone who spent 2 grand on a suit just to be showy is pretentious. If they did it because they really like expensive clothes, that's better (although probably still vain). If they did it because their family comes from money and they're just used to wearing crazy expensive stuff, that would be the most "sincere" way I can think of.

When General Alexander wore jeans and a t-shirt to last year's Def Con, it looked pretentious. http://blogs-images.forbes.com/andygreenberg/files/2012/07/S... It looked like he was wearing a costume and imitating someone else hoping they would think he was like them. He looks like he would feel better in a uniform, like the one he wore to this year's Black Hat. http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/alexander2.jpg

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Post by bloodroot »

sequoia wrote: post #154
Dylan16807 wrote: post #145

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If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

Do you think they're doing it (playing Go, listening to vinyl, whatever) despite not enjoying it? That seems a weird, self-sacrificing thing to do.

Haha whoah whoah whoah since when is playing Go hipster and something that 'they' do? This whole us vs. them turn in the conversation is making me suddenly uncomfortable.
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