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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by nessus42 »

icambron wrote: post #48
MichaelSalib wrote: post #31

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When I was at MIT, I don't recall a single on-campus shooting.

Seconded (2000-2004). And I've lived near campus ever since, and nothing like this has happened. Some shootings in Central Square, but never on campus. I'd say this is a pretty big deal. And HN should care - Stata is full of CS people. Edit: dates

I went to MIT as an undergrad and on my very first day there, there was a gunfight right outside my dorm window between police and an armed fugitive. Next House was under construction at the time, and the fugitive ran into the construction site and fired back. It was exactly like a scene in a movie.

I'd like to tell you what happened next, but I got down on the floor until the commotion ended.

But yes, this was not a common occurrence.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by mindcrime »

ra wrote: post #71
untog wrote: post #5

Don't wish to make light of this at all, but I do wonder- how often does this happen? After all, "shots fired" is not an uncommon thing in many cities in the US. I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" and realise that it was actually just a week in which we found all the things that usually go on every week that we don't hear about.

Having never lived in the US, I find it astounding that you could make a comment like that and get so many nods. I've never even heard a gunshot, and I don't know anyone who ever has.

Heh, it seems so weird to hear somebody say that. My maternal grandfather purchased my first rifle for me before I was born. When I was about 9 or so, my dad gave it to me, and took me out and taught me to shoot, taught me gun safety and - maybe most importantly - drilled into my head the importance of respect for human life, and how you never point a gun at someone unless you absolutely need to kill them (because they are an active threat to your own safety).

Then again, I grew up in a very rural area, but guns are - from my perspective - an absolutely routine, normal, everyday part of life. I guess that's why I find it so hard to "get" the mindset of the radical antigunners here, who act like guns are intrinsically "evil" and seem to think that a gun can pick itself up off a table and go out and shoot somebody.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by jlgreco »

youngerdryas wrote: post #284
grecy wrote: post #282

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no, no, no, you're looking at it all wrong. The crowd is not "Hate America". The Crowd is "America needs to get better". The first step to fixing problems in to acknowledge they exist. I don't know about you, I strive for constant improvement in my life.

Listen to the uncle of the bombers, he has more sense than you.

At the very least, in the specific case of people firing their guns wildly into the air on holidays, I think it is fair to say that there is plenty of room for improvement.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by [deleted] »

jlgreco wrote: post #293
youngerdryas wrote: post #284

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Listen to the uncle of the bombers, he has more sense than you.

At the very least, in the specific case of people firing their guns wildly into the air on holidays, I think it is fair to say that there is plenty of room for improvement.

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by grecy »

[deleted] wrote: post #294
jlgreco wrote: post #293

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At the very least, in the specific case of people firing their guns wildly into the air on holidays, I think it is fair to say that there is plenty of room for improvement.

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I'm not from Europe at all.

I'm from one of the Developed countries that ranks above the US in every major category that counts.

http://www.oecd.org/statistics/

It's always so interesting to see Americans who interpret "make it better" as "taking pot shots"

What's so inherently wrong with admitting there are problems and working towards improving them?

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by jlgreco »

[deleted] wrote: post #294
jlgreco wrote: post #293

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At the very least, in the specific case of people firing their guns wildly into the air on holidays, I think it is fair to say that there is plenty of room for improvement.

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I don't think he was suggesting it should be made illegal to do that, and obviously I know that it already is...

I am quite pro-gun (remember the part about growing up around a lot of responsible gun owners?), but you making the kind of comments that make me strongly reconsider identifying that way. Hurling insults around does not contribute to the discussion; it is just childish and makes you look desperate.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by [deleted] »

grecy wrote: post #296
[deleted] wrote: post #294

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I'm not from Europe at all. I'm from one of the Developed countries that ranks above the US in every major category that counts. http://www.oecd.org/statistics/ It's always so interesting to see Americans who interpret "make it better" as "taking pot shots" What's so inherently wrong with admitting there are problems and working towards improving them?

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by [deleted] »

jlgreco wrote: post #297
[deleted] wrote: post #294

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I don't think he was suggesting it should be made illegal to do that, and obviously I know that it already is... I am quite pro-gun (remember the part about growing up around a lot of responsible gun owners?), but you making the kind of comments that make me strongly reconsider identifying that way. Hurling insults around does not contribute to the discussion; it is just childish and makes you look desperate.

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Post by jlgreco »

[deleted] wrote: post #298
grecy wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not from Europe at all. I'm from one of the Developed countries that ranks above the US in every major category that counts. http://www.oecd.org/statistics/ It's always so interesting to see Americans who interpret "make it better" as "taking pot shots" What's so inherently wrong with admitting there are problems and working towards improving them?

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He has named it. It is Australia.
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