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Here's a helpful map of the events that happened so far that show the proximity of the various events: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200082141349599835237.0...
The carjacking victim reported that they'd been driving around for about half an hour before he escaped at a gas station. Time's arrow beats proximity.
Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)
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#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I had thought that firing guns wildly into the air in some form of celebration was something that was only done in underdeveloped countries... ...it is.
And the hate America first crowd rolls on.
The crowd is not "Hate America".
The Crowd is "America needs to get better". The first step to fixing problems in to acknowledge they exist.
I don't know about you, I strive for constant improvement in my life.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" The mid-April week has always had a higher-than-normal rate of manic-type (e.g. spree killings) violence, and there are a lot of theories about it (spring inciting grandeur in unstable men) but no one knows why. Those are very rare, high-visibility events, though. Overall, that time is no more dangerous than any other. (There's only about…
Columbine shooting was april too I believe
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the hate America first crowd rolls on.
no, no, no, you're looking at it all wrong. The crowd is not "Hate America". The Crowd is "America needs to get better". The first step to fixing problems in to acknowledge they exist. I don't know about you, I strive for constant improvement in my life.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
I shoot pretty regularly, so gunshots aren't foreign to me at all. But I would be seriously, seriously disturbed if I heard them off-range. Generally, Americans do the "Out of sight, out of mind" thing when they hear about violence. They only care when it's happening in situations where they could see themselves. Kid gets shot walking on the sidewalk in inner-city Camden for wearing the wrong color shirt? Meh, he was…
For a minute I thought you were talking about England there. Just replace "Americans" with "Brits" and the post still makes perfect sense.
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Say what you want about the "enlightened liberal sensibilities" of the northeast, the Massachusetts death penalty sure is swift and efficient.
You should hold off on that judgement, e.g. there's plenty of talk about suicide vests, or injuries that go beyond just gun shots. ADDED: There's no particularly kind and gentle way to deal with someone throwing explosives at you....
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#287Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should hold off on that judgement, e.g. there's plenty of talk about suicide vests, or injuries that go beyond just gun shots. ADDED: There's no particularly kind and gentle way to deal with someone throwing explosives at you....
My judgement was based on the dozen or so news agencies reporting "killed early Friday in a violent standoff with the police." But you're right, maybe they're all incorrect.
If someone is advancing on you, a known explosives user (during the chase) who's from a region where the use of "suicide vests" is common, and refuses to stop, you without hesitation shoot to stop. And at as far a distance as you can.
The encounter could have been more violent on the part of the deceased, or since he killed a fellow officer it could have been an execution as all too often happens like recently in California. But the event was probably more confused than any of what I'd said here might imply.
All I can say that we know by inference is that the event was confused enough, and/or there were few enough police there, that his brother escaped---actually, I don't think we know that, the brother might have been let off before the stop---and has obviously successfully gone to ground. Likely into an apartment or home, and they're going to have to search house to house, apartment to apartment, could take quite a while assuming he is inside the 25 block? cordoned off area in Watertown. Not too familiar with that suburb, but I lived in Cambridge and surrounding mostly urban suburbs for a dozen years, it's likely a densely populated area. Even with a maximum effort by all it could drag on for more than a day, or he could get flushed out a minute from now.
ADDED: while all current accounts from the media are highly suspect, this: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/report-boston-marathon... would fit in what else we've heard or can discern:
"According to WBZ-TV’s Joe Shortsleeve, MBTA transit police intercepted the Mercedes in Cambridge and followed it.
"A source told Shortsleeve the brothers lost control of the car and crashed it. A gunfight with police erupted and an MBTA police officer was shot and seriously wounded.
"Miller reported that Tamerlan Tsarnaev threw a bomb at police as he approached them and that’s when officers shot and killed him.
"Shortsleeve’s source said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev then jumped back in the Mercedes, drove over his brother’s body, threw bombs at police and crashed again. He ran off, firing a weapon and that sparked the massive manhunt in Watertown."
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
no, no, no, you're looking at it all wrong. The crowd is not "Hate America". The Crowd is "America needs to get better". The first step to fixing problems in to acknowledge they exist. I don't know about you, I strive for constant improvement in my life.
Listen to the uncle of the bombers, he has more sense than you.
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"Brahmin"!? His caste is relevant, how, exactly? Only a British (or worse, Indian) newspaper would find the necessity to point out the caste of some person being tried by a public mob based on things heard on a police scanner.
I have never read an Indian newspaper making reference to someone's caste unless it was somewhat related to the story.