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Post by griffoa »

antfarm wrote: post #122
user_7832 wrote: post #64

I'm not sure why some comments here are so pessimistic. I was grinning ear to ear while seeing the video. You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? And the model is at least as free as beer? To quote the lyrics/meme, we used to pray for times like this . This is what robotics should be used for.

We nearly destroyed our planet to get there. Technocrats here applaude the new technological achievements that make life a little easier (less boring?) for the top one percent while willfully ignoring the associated costs for everyone else. Manufacturing these at scale will only make things worse. We are approaching peak decadence ever faster.

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Post by tancop »

HPsquared wrote: post #271
h8hawk wrote: post #250

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They are likely Effective Altruists highly attuned to AGI (With current LLM's) risks, fearing an LLM uprising and human extinction, which they regard as the world's most critical challenge.

Ironic, given the effectiveness of the open weights models that are distributed altruistically.

the name stopped being relevant a long time ago when they went from rating charities to coming up with horror stories about ai. "ineffective egotism" would be better for what they are now.

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Post by RGamma »

user_7832 wrote: post #64

I'm not sure why some comments here are so pessimistic. I was grinning ear to ear while seeing the video. You're telling me we've finally got robots that can do our laundry? And the model is at least as free as beer? To quote the lyrics/meme, we used to pray for times like this . This is what robotics should be used for.

The outlook on this, as so often, depends on personal finances.

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Post by gonight »

poncho_romero wrote: post #251
letmevoteplease wrote: post #218

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"the future where robots do everything" and "unemployment" are the same thing

Yes but unemployment where a small cadre of rich elites own the robots and the rest of us are serfs is very different from the public owning and benefiting from the robots in the form of strong social services and UBI.

The Jetsons vs. Elysium.

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Post by epolanski »

trallnag wrote: post #285
epolanski wrote: post #192

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Got two Xiaomi phones in a row, one in 2018 for 250 euros (note 8 pro) and one in 2023 for 300 (13T) and I liked them a lot. My gripe with the second one is lowish battery life, it always bites me on longer trips when my gf's Pixel 8 lasts considerably more, but was also way more expensive. Will check battery reviews better next time I shop for a phone, I don't care much for the rest.

I just can't deal with all the ads on Xiaomi phones. Switched over from Chinese phones, still remember my JiaYu G4 fondly, to Samsung few years ago where the situation is a bit more bearable

I never saw an ad except when opening Xiaomi own apps which I don't use.

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Post by Joker_vD »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #113
Joker_vD wrote: post #39

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So is a pasta factory. Today it rolls and forms macaroni, tomorrow it makes bullets. Have you ever wondered why rigatoni are so wide? That's why.

The pasta factory analogy is hilarious, get an upvote. Is it something from the WWII?

No, not really. The macaroni are formed by squeezing the dough through the openings, while the cartridge cases are made by stretching small metallic disks into cylindrical shape (and then stamping the bottom to make it flat and have a proper rim), so it's impossible to repurpose the pasta-forming machines into the casing-making ones.

But it is an urban legend of sorts, along with "baby strollers with chain tracks instead of wheels", and shows how little most of us know about industrial manufacturing.

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #72
michaelhoney wrote: post #10

Watching the two-handed robot has me thinking that a third hand, perhaps with a different set of capabilities (like a tentacle grip) might make many tasks easier. I realise that more limbs = more problems, but even so, having additional ways to hold and turn things would be a big help.

SciFi novel "The Mote in God's Eye." has aliens with three hands. One "gripping hand" kinda coming out the gut, and two dextrous hands for detail work. Led to abuse of English language with: On the one hand... On the other hand... On the gripping hand...

Which is reall just a patch for the problem of "On one hand… On the other hand… …On the OTHER hand…".

It's worth noting that the one-other-gripping pattern seems meant to convey two considerations and end with the strongest of three.

The English one-other pattern doesn't necessarily require the second consideration to dominate. They could be equal, or they might merely introduce concerns that haven't been evaluated to conclusion yet.

Alas, one-other-gripping doesn't seem to generalise to more than three concerns.

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #100
____mr____ wrote: post #47

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saw the way it folded the clothes and thought "better than me" :/

I'm not sure what the :/ implies, but if you're disappointed by your own folding techniques, spend a bit of time on it, look up some guides, and fold clothes with purpose. or something. (Rise up against the machines! Folding your own clothes is an act of resistance!)

I use it for "disconcerted", but I guess any situation that would result in a diagonal mouth irl would be fine.

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Post by numpad0 »

echelon wrote: post #112
lp4v4n wrote: post #102

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The pessimism in the comments here is entirely the reflection of the times we're living in. Technology got weaponized against the average citizen. It has become a synonym for unemployment, enshittification, mass surveillance and social erosion. If this video appeared in 60's or 70's, people would be in awe imagining the future where robots do everything.

Those of us who liked the open web and P2P and hacking on projects all the time are seeing these models as a way to rebuild the internet in a shape that pleases us. To build anything and everything we want. Sans opportunity cost. And that's the real value - you don't have to burn the candle of your life away to get what you want. You'll have so much more time now that you aren't AST wrangling. Opportunity cost is van…

The whole thing feels like that the US collectively isn't feeling confident about itself in the coming creativity-limited world that AI/AGIs supposedly bring, and that it's not happy about that pessimistic rational projections. I don't know exactly why wouldn't it be or why nothing seem to be done about it, though. Both look to be fundamentally solvable problems to me.

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Post by static_motion »

dnemmers wrote: post #198
phs318u wrote: post #172

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Ha! You remind me of something I used to tell my colleagues back when I held a regular job. They would compliment me on my highly patterned shirts (eg. A very small floral pattern repeated). I would explain that a shirt like that just requires low spin in the washer, and then drying on a hanger. Whatever wrinkles are left are almost invisible due to the pattern. With collars and cuffs I’d just literally manually stre…

Sorry, but if you're buying clothes that have manual drying steps, it's gonna be a hard sale to the general public.

This is a mostly American perspective that I find endlessly amusing. I only have a handful of clothing items that say that tumble drying is fine on the tag, and most of my clothing is very casual wear (t-shirts, jeans, sports clothing). Dryers eat up clothing like it's nobody's business. Plus, electricity costs money while the sun is free. And while yes, the time to hang laundry has value, it takes 10 minutes to hang a load. If it rains, I hang the clothes indoors with a dehumidifier which is cheaper to run than a dryer and dries clothes in a matter of a couple of hours.
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