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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by astrange »

m463 wrote: post #259
jaredklewis wrote: post #215

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Not as a shareholder, but as a customer and user I’m very ok if they just focus on making those rectangles. Makes no difference to me if Apple does the new “innovative” products or if some other company does it. But if Apple starts getting “visions” and those interfere with the iOS and macOS experience that I have and like now, I’ll be annoyed. I like my MacBook, AirPods, and iPhone how they are now. If they don’t sc…

"vision" would be to do things for the customer - actually allow privacy, even from apple itself. Like turn off telemetry, not just anonymize it. and opt-in, not opt-out. - install apps without asking permission - allow access to your data, for example to export your imessages Just in general be respectful and polite

Telemetry is opt-in. It asks you during setup.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by AndroTux »

rakejake wrote: post #239
mvkel wrote: post #123

Be careful what you wish for. Satya Nadella is by most accounts the best person to lead Microsoft, currently the largest software company in the world. "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste," said Steve Jobs. That largely remains true. Jobs called the computer "a bicycle for the mind." It immediately evokes a sense of freedom, magic, and fun. Satya Nadella calls AI "a cognitive amplifier," which…

I often wonder why Satya Nadella is so venerated on HN compared to say, Cook or Pichai. As innovators, MS lags way behind both Google and Apple. I can't think of one bleeding edge product released during Satya's tenure. Say what you will about Apple and Google, they still consistently put out products that make you sit up and pay attention. What has MS been doing other than squeezing the MS Office and Azure cash cows…

Nadella is obviously a very smart and successful business leader. He achieved his goals and transformed Microsoft into a very successful, healthy company. This is why I personally think he isn’t just a bland idiot like for example Steve Ballmer.

However, it’s clear that Nadella’s goals are everything but noble. He doesn’t care about the product, and he really doesn’t care about the customer. He only cares about number go up.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by curtisblaine »

ivraatiems wrote: post #203
Razengan wrote: post #180

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Does any CEO actually use their own company's products? The richest and most "powerful" people still have meat-based assistants do all their shit: Take their notes, check their calendars, make their appointments, toast their bread.. And it shows: This is how you get features like "Edge Light" and an Invites app before fixing basic functionality that the peasants rely upon. Like how we get the weird iOS Journal app ev…

> Does any CEO actually use their own company's products? ...yes? Quite often? I'm all for ragging on CEOs but this seems misguided. The CEO has been a user of the core product at every company I've ever worked for. If you think Tim Cook is pulling a Samsung Galaxy out of his pocket, I don't know what to tell you.

> If you think Tim Cook is pulling a Samsung Galaxy out of his pocket, I don't know what to tell you.

He should. He should literally be using competitors for real work, at least half of the time, deep in their ecosystem, to understand where Apple products need to improve.

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Post by walthamstow »

astrange wrote: post #291
m463 wrote: post #259

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"vision" would be to do things for the customer - actually allow privacy, even from apple itself. Like turn off telemetry, not just anonymize it. and opt-in, not opt-out. - install apps without asking permission - allow access to your data, for example to export your imessages Just in general be respectful and polite

Telemetry is opt-in. It asks you during setup.

Isn't the checkbox already ticked though? I'd say that's opt-out. The user must take direct action to avoid telemetry.

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Post by microtonal »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #175
bschwindHN wrote: post #164

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My only two iPhones have been the iPhone SE 2016, and the 13 mini. I miss the SE but the 13 mini is really nice too. It's a shame because the SE is still perfectly capable of running most software I use on a phone, but that software has just gotten more inefficient over time.

I have the 22 SE and I suspect I’ll get 3 more years out of it before they EOL it. I would have bought the 16e if it wasn’t such a blatant money grab. Touch ID is going to be hard to give up

Touch ID is going to be hard to give up

I'm kind of the opposite, I would never want to go back to Touch ID. It's so nice that you can set your notifications to be private by default, but the contents will be revealed when you glance at the phone.

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Post by microtonal »

Gigachad wrote: post #73
verelo wrote: post #43

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You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

In the real world I don't know anyone replacing their phone every 24 months. Usually people keep a phone for 3-4 years and then it gets given to kids/someone else for another few years usage. I doubt any significant number of people are chucking their 1 year old iphone in a draw to sit unused after they get the next one.

I know some people (me included) who get a new phone frequently, but it usually works by shifting down devices down the family. E.g. our daughter, my parents, and some of my in-laws all have devices shifted down from person to person.

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Post by vasco »

dalant979 wrote: post #277
FabHK wrote: post #218

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Sorry, are you suggesting that Cook doesn't use a computer in his day-to-day work, or has a Windows PC or Linux box in his office? Somehow I doubt that. (It's "macOS", BTW.)

Cook is on record in 2012 as using an iPad for 80% of his work, which mostly involves communication activities such as making decisions, responding to emails, and viewing documents. With how Apple has since then differentiated iPadOS and released accessories to make the iPad more laptop like, I'd guess that percentage has only increased.

The iPad was launched in 2010 and seen as a device to play around with - a big ipod. Two years later they were in the midst of the big push for using iPads for business, in hospitals, in cafes to replace PoS, in factories, etc. So you say the CEO of Apple uses it for work, if it's good enough for him it's good enough for you. I highly doubt he doesn't use an actual computer.

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Post by rakejake »

sz4kerto wrote: post #278
rakejake wrote: post #239

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I often wonder why Satya Nadella is so venerated on HN compared to say, Cook or Pichai. As innovators, MS lags way behind both Google and Apple. I can't think of one bleeding edge product released during Satya's tenure. Say what you will about Apple and Google, they still consistently put out products that make you sit up and pay attention. What has MS been doing other than squeezing the MS Office and Azure cash cows…

For example he made the back then very-very brave decision to completely getting rid of Windows as the leading Microsoft brand. He had a very clear vision for Microsoft and the industry even if the outcome is not super exciting products for you and me. He’s not squeezing Azure - he was the person who made Azure into what it is now. So he changed Microsoft fundamentally - a very difficult thing for such a large compan…

My point was more that MS hasn't had an industry changing product in a while. Google became joint-SOTA in AI and seems poised to take the crown with the next Gemini, and also in self-driving cars and quantum computing. They've kept their cash cows going while also being up to date on the tech that might upend their business model, so in a way they've cracked the innovator's dilemma which is definitely not an easy thing to do. A lot of HNers even wrote them off after ChatGPT and the disastrous Bard. Apple has a successful mass product in Airpods, a moonshot in Vision Pro and the insane Apple Silicon which they executed over more than a decade.

Nadella did well in the last decade to consolidate the MS stack (Teams, Azure, Office) and to invest in OpenAI when he realized MS's internal efforts wouldn't yield the expected output. He has protected their turf and made some strategic acquisitions like Linkedin and Github to keep their lead in enterprise software. From the POV of Wall Street performance and stock returns, he is a definitely a great CEO but so are Cook, Pichai even Ellison.

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Post by microtonal »

conradfr wrote: post #273
verelo wrote: post #43

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You forget, the camera gets better every year! I've had an iphone for 15 years. I mean, it's fine...i just wish there was incentive for durability and sustainability v's replace it every 12-24 months. I guess sustainability concerns at Apple ends at ensuring their stock price is sustainable.

Years ago the wisdom was that money was in software instead of hardware but for some reasons OSes and their updates became free. If the incentive is for consumers to buy more devices the incentive change.

If the incentive is for consumers to buy more devices the incentive change.

I think it also has to do with the shift in computing population. It was easy to convince tech people to buy a new OS based on a feature list. When computers became more widely used, it became harder and harder. E.g. when OS X still had paid upgrades, it was very hard to convince non-tech family to buy the update. Buying a new device is easier, because the features are immediately visible to people and carrying a newer devices is also a form of social signaling.

At the same time, the internet became far more hostile and running an OS that has all the security updates is important. So, it's easier to get people to update when the updates are free.

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