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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by pgalvin »

usui wrote: post #62
welks wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he hadn't tried to self-treat his cancer with acupuncture, fruit juice and herbs, he'd probably be around now to do that. The man was clearly a lucky idiot, and shouldn't be revered, but used as a cautionary tale of unbridled arrogance.

Maybe watch this lecture by a medical professional https://youtu.be/81xnvgOlHaY before repeating a commonly-believed myth.

That lecture is by a doctor who had widely discredited views on cancer, often cited as an example of quack, pseudoscientific claims on the topic.

His claims, specifically on cancer, were widely and roundly rejected by the scientific and medical community. This is not a controversial statement, either - his supporters proudly proclaim that his views are rejected by the vast majority of experts which, in my opinion, pretty much sums it up.

I highly recommend people avoid falling into this dangerous rabbit hole.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by pertymcpert »

stinkbeetle wrote: post #166
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139

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Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

No, Apple had been doing their own silicon (presumably you mean for their phones) while Jobs was still CEO, and he bought PA Semi in 2008 which put them on the path to do their own CPU cores (iPhone 5 with Swift CPU was released the year after he died so he'd obviously seen the core design process through from the beginning to likely initial tape-out or very close to).

Where do you draw the line? Apple Silicon as a high powered replacement for Intel as a concept was all under Cook's tenure, from initial investigations to product ship. By your logic where would we stop the attribution?

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by gota »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #152
welks wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he hadn't tried to self-treat his cancer with acupuncture, fruit juice and herbs, he'd probably be around now to do that. The man was clearly a lucky idiot, and shouldn't be revered, but used as a cautionary tale of unbridled arrogance.

He should perhaps be a cautionary tale against thinking that being really good at building consumer tech products makes you good at everything. But if this is your standard for "lucky idiot", I wonder who of note you wouldn't consider a lucky idiot. You can dig up something like this for everyone from Newton to Salk.

My go-to example for this is Turing. The genius of our field, and apparently duped into credulity about telepathy (probably based on faulty/fraudulent results by people at then-respected institutions)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by chubs »

ww520 wrote: post #165
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139

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Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

Apple also invested heavily into EV. Though not succeeded, they at least put money into new areas.

Is it worth mentioning that there are almost countless Chinese EV brands nowadays? I wonder if Apple was really trying. I’m sure it’s difficult, of course, but it seems like every week there’s a new car manufacturer. To quote Clarkson ‘how hard could it be’ ;)

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

bschwindHN wrote: post #164
harshalizee wrote: post #61

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What do you do with your phones that it doesn't last more than 24 months? I've had only two iPhones for almost 11 years. An iphone 6s and currently an iPhone 13 mini there entire time. They're solidly reliable

My only two iPhones have been the iPhone SE 2016, and the 13 mini. I miss the SE but the 13 mini is really nice too. It's a shame because the SE is still perfectly capable of running most software I use on a phone, but that software has just gotten more inefficient over time.

I have the 22 SE and I suspect I’ll get 3 more years out of it before they EOL it. I would have bought the 16e if it wasn’t such a blatant money grab. Touch ID is going to be hard to give up

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by viraptor »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #139
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Cook's Apple got you: - Apple Watch - Airpods (& Pro) & Beats - Apple Silicon - Vision Pro

Beats started without Apple. They bought the existing brand.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by jwr »

ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Most importantly, it seems Cook doesn't love computers and doesn't use many (most?) of Apple products. It shows. Especially with Mac OS.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by spaqin »

pbh101 wrote: post #124
someperson wrote: post #85

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With easier to replace batteries and 3.5mm headphone jacks, I'd wager the secondary market service life would be 2-3 times longer. Not to mention the e-waste from non-repairable battery-based devices like air-pods. Corporation make planned obsolescence decisions that happen to benefit themselves, then can dress it up as "water resistance". Wouldn't be so bad but Apple's anti-consumer decisions are unfortunately imita…

What you describe as pro-consumer is only pro to some consumers, because they come with extra weight, size, and case compromises that every consumer would non-optionally be stuck with. I’d agree with you if we were in some no-compromise world or if there there was significant evidence that Apple wasn’t designing these phones within an inch of their pan-dimensional budget (size, weight, durability, hardware, battery l…

I would be okay with being "stuck" with a replacement battery and a 3.5mm jack. That's a compromise I'd be wiling to take; but at the end of the day it's all about profit.

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by beeflet »

blaufast wrote: post #94

Almost every top comment is negative. This negativity about apple has existed since the 90s. Apple has been the most profitable example of betting against the herd for the last 20 years. And possibly the easiest if you’re willing to look at the world plainly. I’m glad to see the herd hasn’t changed and I have plenty of gains left.

betting against the nerd

Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by Razengan »

jwr wrote: post #177
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

Most importantly, it seems Cook doesn't love computers and doesn't use many (most?) of Apple products. It shows. Especially with Mac OS.

Does any CEO actually use their own company's products?

The richest and most "powerful" people still have meat-based assistants do all their shit: Take their notes, check their calendars, make their appointments, toast their bread..

And it shows: This is how you get features like "Edge Light" and an Invites app before fixing basic functionality that the peasants rely upon. Like how we get the weird iOS Journal app even though Notes could have done all that if they had improved it a bit.

Steve Jobs was probably one of the few people in charge who actually used his company's own products. You need someone who's annoyed with the status quo enough to make a company to solve it, not just someone elected by a board.

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