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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #283
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #85

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Anthropic is the same. Unless it has changed within the last few months, you can subscribe to Claude but if you want to use Claude Code it'll come out of your "API usage" bucket which is billed separately than the subscription. Some jerk has learned that we prefer CLI things and has come to the conclusion that we should therefore pay extra for them. Workaround is to use their GUI with some MCPs but I dislike it becau…

Isn't that a bit like saying that gasoline should be sold as a fixed price subscription rather than a usage based scheme where long distance truckers pay more than someone driving A ChatBot is more like a fixed-price buffet where usage is ultimately human limited (even if the modest eaters are still subsidizing the hogs). An agentic system is going to consume resources in much more variable manner, depending on how i…

Claude desktop editing files and running commands via the desktop commander MCP is pretty much equivalent functionality wise to Claude Code. I can set both of them to go, make tea, and come back to see that they're still cranking after modifying several files and running several commands.

It's just a UI difference.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by dmd »

Well, color me not impressed. On my very first few tries, out of 10 short-ish (no more than 300 lines) python scripts I asked it to clean up and refactor, 4 of them it mangled to not even run any more, because of syntax (mostly quoting) errors and mis-indenting. Claude has never done that.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by thimabi »

safety1st wrote: post #269
bachmeier wrote: post #162

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> Google is fumbling the bag so badly with the pricing. In certain areas, perhaps, but Google Workspace at $14/month not only gives you Gemini Pro, but 2 TB of storage, full privacy, email with a custom domain, and whatever else. College students get the AI pro plan for free. I recently looked over all the options for folks like me and my family. Google is obviously the right choice, and it's not particularly close.

I know they raised the price on our Google Workspace Standard subscriptions but don't really know what we got for that aside from Gemini integration into Google Drive etc. Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement? Do I get Code Assist or anything like that? (But Code Assist seems to be free on a personal G account...?) Google is fumbling with the marketing/communication - when I look at thei…

> Does this mean I can use Gemini CLI using my Workspace entitlement?

No, you cannot use neither Gemini CLI nor Code Assist via Workspace — at least not at the moment. However, if you upgrade your Workspace plan, you can use Gemini Advanced via the Web or app interfaces.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by nojito »

reaperducer wrote: post #275
nojito wrote: post #272

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>If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. Not if you pay for it.

>If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. Not if you pay for it. Today. In six months, a "Terms of Service Update" e-mail will go out to an address that is not monitored by anyone.

Sure but then you can stop paying.

There's also zero chance they will risk paying customers by changing this policy.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by scoopdewoop »

Fluorescence wrote: post #222
diegof79 wrote: post #194

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Google suffers from Microsoft's issues: it has products for almost everything, but its confusing product messaging dilutes all the good things it does. I like Gemini 2.5 Pro, too, and recently, I tried different AI products (including the Gemini Pro plan) because I wanted a good AI chat assistant for everyday use. But I also wanted to reduce my spending and have fewer subscriptions. The Gemini Pro subscription is inc…

> The Gemini Pro subscription is included with Google One It's not in Basic, Standard or Premium. It's in a new tier called "Google AI Pro" which I think is worth inclusion in your catalogue of product confusion. Oh wait, there's even more tiers that for some reason can't be paid for annually. Weird... why not? "Google AI Ultra" and some others just called Premium again but now include AI. 9 tiers, 5 called Premium,…

It is bold to assume these products will even exist in a year

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by kevindamm »

jdironman wrote: post #288
mil22 wrote: post #281

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There is some information on this buried in configuration.md under "Usage Statistics". They claim: *What we DON'T collect:* - *Personally Identifiable Information (PII):* We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys. - *Prompt and Response Content:* We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model. - *File Content:* We do not log the content…

I wonder what the legal difference between "collect" and "log" is.

Collection means it gets sent to a server, logging implies (permanent or temporary) retention of that data. I tried finding a specific line or context in their privacy policy to link to but maybe someone else can help me provide a good reference. Logging is a form of collection but not everything collected is logged unless mentioned as such.

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Post by thimabi »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #268
GardenLetter27 wrote: post #99

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Google is fumbling the bag so badly with the pricing. Gemini 2.5 Pro is the best model I've used (even better than o3 IMO) and yet there's no simple Claude/Cursor like subscription to just get full access. Nevermind Enterprise users too, where OpenAI has it locked up.

They're 'fumbling' because these models are extremely expensive to run. It's also why there's so many products and so much confusion across the whole industry.

An interesting thing is that Google AI offers are much more confusing than the OpenAI ones — despite the fact that ChatGPT models have one of the worst naming schemes in the industry. Google has confusing model names, plans, API tiers, and even interfaces (AI Studio, Gemini app, Gemini Web, Gemini API, Vertex, Google Cloud, Code Assist, etc.). More often than not, these things overlap with one another, ensuring minimal clarity and preventing widespread usage of Google’s models.

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Post by tiahura »

ipsum2 wrote: post #277
mattzito wrote: post #266

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It's a lot more nuanced than that. If you use the free edition of Code Assist, your data can be used UNLESS you opt out, which is at the bottom of the support article you link to: "If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals." and then the link: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/se…

Sorry, that's not correct. Did you check out the link? It doesn't describe the CLI, only the IDE. "You can find the Gemini Code Assist for individuals privacy notice and settings in two ways: - VS Code - IntelliJ "

As a lawyer, I'm confused.

I guess the key question is whether the Gemini CLI, when used with a personal Google account, is governed by the broader Gemini Apps privacy settings here? https://myactivity.google.com/product/gemini?pli=1

If so, it appears it can be turned off. However, my CLI activity isn't showing up there?

Can someone from Google clarify?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by yomismoaqui »

cperry wrote: post #41

Hi - I work on this. Uptake is a steep curve right now, spare a thought for the TPUs today. Appreciate all the takes so far, the team is reading this thread for feedback. Feel free to pile on with bugs or feature requests we'll all be reading.

I have been evaluating other tools like Amp (from Sourcegraph) and when trying Gemini Cli on VsCode I found some things to improve:

- On a new chat I have to re-approve things like executing "go mod tidy", "git", write files... I need to create a new chat for each feature, (maybe an option to clear the current chat on VsCode would work)

- I have found some problems with adding some new endpoint on an example Go REST server I was trying it on, it just deleted existing endpoints on the file. Same with tests, it deleted existing tests when asking to add a test. For comparison I didn't find these problems when evaluating Amp (uses Claude 4)

Overall it works well and hope you continue with polishing it, good job!!

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ipsum2 »

jart wrote: post #244
ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

Mozilla and Google provide an alternative called gemmafile which gives you an airgapped version of Gemini (which Google calls Gemma) that runs locally in a single file without any dependencies. https://huggingface.co/jartine/gemma-2-27b-it-llamafile It's been deployed into production by 32% of organizations: https://www.wiz.io/reports/the-state-of-ai-in-the-cloud-2025

There's nothing wrong with promoting your own projects, but its a little weird that you don't disclose that you're the creator.
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