Anyone else’s M1 1st gen still crashes when streaming audio/video through hdmi?
Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#292I work with desktop software and have to work with multiple display scenarios. It's on Windows, but I guess the problems are similar. Fundamentally, one issue is that the concepts of multiple screens, multiple desktops, multiple DPI's are usually quite young. Also, there is (at least in Windows) no well defined concept of "desktop configurations". There is no built in support for remembering which screen a particular…
If you minimize and then restore a window, it saves that position on the screen. There are some programs that will misbehave no matter what but after that, you can close and reopen the program and it should open in the same screen, with the same size and position.
> If you minimize and then restore a window, it saves that position on the screen. There are some programs that will misbehave no matter what but after that, you can close and reopen the program and it should open in the same screen, with the same size and position.
Is this a mac-ism? A standard behavior? An expectation? Something a program would do automatically?
As for the behavior I agree - so long as the screen index exists and so on. But should a program remember more than that. Like "Last time there were two screens, we were moved to screen B and exited there, so we should now start there" even though it has been run on a single screenA since. That's the typical office user with laptop + external screen.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#293I seriously have none of these problems which makes me wonder what‘s wrong with me / my perception. (Intel and Apple Silicon MBPs, two external Dell Displays.) As a Mac user of decades I rarely use the dock though, but mostly shortcuts and spotlight.
When I first got an iPhone I was sooo excited to give Apple all my personal information. That is weird, because, that is a negative as a consumer. When I first got Fedora, I was pretty accepting of flaws in the system because I was so excited. Weird because, this is a negative. But vocally, we love our brands we associate ourselves with. You are such a vocal proponent of Apple products, when Apple fails, you think it…
I currently don’t use Fedora but Arch and FreeBSD besides from a number of Apple and Android devices, does that mean - in your simple world view - that I’m not in love with a single company but polyarmorous?
I have some professional experience with Solaris, HP-UX and Domain/OS, which of them is the kinkiest? I bet it was Domain/OS, but nobody does it anymore, it’s way too weird and smells funny. Necrophilia it would be, I guess. (And I’m not even sure about the MacOSX Developer Preview CD that I found in some box the other day, using Apple must be some resurrection fetish…)
Pseudo psychological analytics of OS choices, coming from people who have neither an idea on other people’s use cases nor on their experiences are so disappointing and boring. Can we please invent a “-splaining” term for it?
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#294> The Mac operating system still Just. Fucking. Sucks. at remembering where windows were, when relaunching apps. I agree and it's confounding. For me it's even worse: when plugging back into my home office after some work on the road, it doesn't remember the window positions associated with that setup, and I have to reorganize my dozens of windows away from the laptop screen again. I've solved this through a 3rd-part…
Yip. It always bugs me that so many fundamental things aren't implemented; no native calendar in the taskbar (well top/status bar) so I gotta use an app.
Finder fucking sucks, it doesn't remember which sort order I've set for which folder and I constantly have to change it between alphabetical and created date, mostly for the file open dialog (alphabet for vscode folder open, created date for slack or browser file upload).
For all of Apple's bluster they're really only as good as any other company when it comes to the "it just works" experience, often worse.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#295I seriously have none of these problems which makes me wonder what‘s wrong with me / my perception. (Intel and Apple Silicon MBPs, two external Dell Displays.) As a Mac user of decades I rarely use the dock though, but mostly shortcuts and spotlight.
The issues depend a lot on the displays (some displays don't expose a serial number, or have the same serial for each display), or how it's connected - Thunderbolt dock? USB dock? HDMI? (what adapter?) DisplayPort? (again, what adapter?)
That’s a good point, it may help me if begin to experience similar problems.
(Which may be tomorrow, because I mentioned that I don’t remember having those problems.)
I’m currently using a thunderbolt adaptor with HDMI and DP, so I guess that makes it pretty easy for the OS to consistently identify the displays.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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Did you ever consider there might be something wrong with your machine or some piece of software you’ve installed? Or do you think the rest of the world that has heaped praise on the Apple Silicon Macs has missed something you’ve seen?
I blame this on trying to use non-Apple hardware with the MacBook. I'm sure if I had an Apple Display instead of a g-sync 165Hz-capable monitor and closed the lid when hooked up everything would be... perhaps not fine, but good enough. The macbook is amazing when considered in isolation. Trying to use it in a workstation setting is definitely 'holding it wrong', which drives me nuts. Wasted potential and definitely u…
I'm using one in a workstation setting with 1 big curved widescreen monitor and a multitude of keyboards and pointer devices, and it's great. It's fine in the workstation setting, you're holding it particularly wrong somewayhow
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Just like the touchpad and mouse 'scroll direction' setting being tied together. It makes sense for Apple mice/external trackpad (which all have a touch surface), so sod the 100% of other far more prevalent mice that use a scroll wheel, for which 'natural scroll' is absurdly unnatural (but disable it, and lose it on the built-in trackpad too).
> scroll wheel, for which 'natural scroll' is absurdly unnatural IMO there is no objective reason why turning a plastic wheel towards or away from the screen should be the natural choice for scrolling down a webpage. It's just something that some people are used to. My head sees scrolling on a touchpad, the Magic Mouse and a wheeled mouse as the same thing — and I even set my Windows gaming machine so that the mouse…
You pull the mouse body towards you to move the cursor down the screen, you pull the wheel towards you to go down the page.
The idea that you are touching the document and directly manipulating it and pushing the document up is a touch interaction model. Mouse interaction moves the cursor/view. It’s not “natural” but it’s in accordance with decades of mouse behaviour that “toward your body” is down.
Speaking of, “page down” acts like moving the page up. Mouse wheel down (towards you) matches page down, which is agreeable.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#298I don’t have any of these issues. In fact, I have really never had problems with a second monitor on a Macbook since 2012 through multiple generations of Macbook, different monitors, and every mac OS till now (Sonoma).
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My WindowServer is sitting at 30% CPU and 15% GPU on an M1 MacBook Pro and I have no idea why. I reboot the Mac more often than I rebooted my dogshit HP enterprise laptop. MacOS is just a bad OS. It's good if you only ever use the MacBook as a laptop, but the moment you hook it up to a useful setup, it becomes a drag.
Did you ever consider there might be something wrong with your machine or some piece of software you’ve installed? Or do you think the rest of the world that has heaped praise on the Apple Silicon Macs has missed something you’ve seen?
It's a Mac. Of course there's something wrong with it. It's riddled with bugs Apple can't be bothered to fix.
If it isn't WindowServer losing its mind, it's some other buggy system daemon. Apple simply does not do stable versions of macOS any more.