I Lost Faith in Kagi

Post by EasyMark » Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:17 PM UTC

Sakos wrote: post #19

infecto wrote: post #8

I still pay for Kagi for its search but this has kind of been the problem from the beginning with their org. - Search has been a breath of fresh air, I wish they dedicated more time to it. - Orion...is ok? I use it off and on and it is fine but would rather have better search. The premise of the browser is nice but it feels like this could probably be a whole separate company or a purely open source endeavor. It has…

As a "hard-core" Kagi user: 1) I legit can't fathom going back to Google or any other search engine. I don't know what I'll do if they go under. 2) Investing in integrating AI into their search is absolutely vital and I like a lot of what they're doing there 3) Everything else, including the insanity of the t-shirts thing, is a complete waste of time and money. I don't understand what their strategy is if it isn't to…

Post by eviks » Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

thisisjasononhn wrote: post #222

eviks wrote: post #58

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he explicitly said in his email that "Personal emails are PII.", so how is that a defence of his previous position?

Lori is a she, not a he.

Post by figassis » Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

freediver wrote: post #271

figassis wrote: post #256

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I installed it sometime (end of last year/ beginning of this year, can't recall). Was setting it up and imported bookmarks. Then tried to edit them and found out that renaming bookmarks and/or changing links messes up the bookmarks, they don't save/get reset. Some very odd behaviors and I have a hard time believing that they were not picked up by the team or other users. I think setting bookmarks with icon only was a…

Is it fair to say that building a browser from scratch is very hard, multi year process, and that one interaction with it half a year ago and encountering some bugs does not mean the project is abandoned? I use it as a daily driver and many other people do and while there are many issues still (we have over 2000 open issues on oriofeedback.org) Orion has never been better and I encourage you try it again.

Post by nottorp » Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:32 PM UTC

internetter wrote: post #239

nottorp wrote: post #196

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And... when the bots come and "engage", what will you do?

1. Voting rings are one of the easiest types of spam to detect. Of course, the bigger the service the better the bots, but that problem specifically is a later issue 2. Zero tolerance to bots 3. The service is not free 4. Individuals have very little impact on the rankings of other users, so you need to pay for a lot of bots I believe that the true problem with bots on, say, twitter, is that they have perverse incent…

Post by Zambyte » Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:36 PM UTC

hiddencost wrote: post #201

Zambyte wrote: post #117

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> I wish they dedicated more time to it. What changes you have in mind to search functionality? I feel like the core search is rock solid as is, but they address search quality reports on their feedback forums all the time. To me, the AI features (and specifically how they are only used when you opt in per query) are enhancing search, and the time they have been allocating to those features has continuously improved…

Search quality requires maintenance and continual tuning. It's not a one and done "add more functionality" kind of product.