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Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by dang »

explaininjs wrote: post #30

Been there, done that. Have the postcard. I got to experience the even more fun version where you feel like your death is imminent, you watch your surroundings stop rendering chunk by chunk, and your long term friend is telling you it is indeed all a simulation that everyone but me knew about, and I really was dying (more accurately: going "offline" for an upgrade, and my "spirit" wouldn't be persisted across version…

We detached this subthread, which went offtopic and flameward, from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37995044.

> As for recovery, Jesus saved me. He can save your friend too, if she lets Him.

It's best not to proselytize on HN. It's ok to talk about your own experience of course, but when it starts to move into standard religious tropes, that's already a kind of flamebait and discussion quality plummets, and boy did that happen in this thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by dang »

nyc_data_geek1 wrote: post #218
explaininjs wrote: post #30

Been there, done that. Have the postcard. I got to experience the even more fun version where you feel like your death is imminent, you watch your surroundings stop rendering chunk by chunk, and your long term friend is telling you it is indeed all a simulation that everyone but me knew about, and I really was dying (more accurately: going "offline" for an upgrade, and my "spirit" wouldn't be persisted across version…

The line between faith and delusion is tenuous at best. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_delusion

No religious flamewar on HN please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by dang »

hellweaver666 wrote: post #181
explaininjs wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're asking me to summarize years of reflection and several near-death experiences into an internet message board comment, but I'll try to scrape the surface. In short, I had lost all faith in the "official narrative" of creation/existence/whatever as taught in schools/society/etc. that I had grown up believing (growing up I'd have called myself atheist, then agnostic). You might call this an anti-science view, but…

Sounds to me like you're still hallucinating.

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by dang »

explaininjs wrote: post #213
hellweaver666 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds to me like you're still hallucinating.

Get behind me, hellweaver! For it is written: Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. (For those following along, this is a cute and fun example of Scripture being used to rebuke attempts to shake the foundation. The forces that be typically aren't so overt.)

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by dang »

johnnyworker wrote: post #127
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty agnostic, but what are you answers to seemingly untraceable questions of life, meaning, and existence? I’m starting to come around to the view that ridicule of religiosity is quite often more vacuous than spirituality.

That God kinda-became human to "sacrifice" himself (with no loss, got up 3 days later to live forever, nothing was sacrificed) in order to forgive the sins of people, but only if they believe it, isn't spiritual, it's silly. You owe someone something, and someone else or that person pays it for you -- but if you don't believe that happened, it never happened. Great stuff. I don't need to have an answer for life, the…

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by [deleted] »

explaininjs wrote: post #30

Been there, done that. Have the postcard. I got to experience the even more fun version where you feel like your death is imminent, you watch your surroundings stop rendering chunk by chunk, and your long term friend is telling you it is indeed all a simulation that everyone but me knew about, and I really was dying (more accurately: going "offline" for an upgrade, and my "spirit" wouldn't be persisted across version…

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Post by smallkitten »

Etheryte wrote: post #121
Delokoloololo wrote: post #111

I still don't think we as a society are allowed to completly ban any drugs. A society might be allowed to have safety mechanism in place but otherwise nothing else.

While I see where you're coming from, how do you address the healthcare gap? I agree with personal freedom of choice and choosing your own risk tolerance, but as a society we collectively pay for the healthcare costs of those who fall through the cracks and go too far. This problem isn't unique to drugs in any way, we face the same problem with e.g. excessive alcohol use, and there the problem is also largely unsolve…

I just wanted to say how disgusting your comment feels.

At a forum of people who are mostly software engineers and embrace the sedentary lifestyle, to talk about a "healthcare gap" WRT drugs is ludicrous.

Sitting for 8+ hours a day will injure your health more than a cocaine addiction would. Source: Have experience with both.

Anecdotal, etc. all the disclaimers apply (obligatory disclaimer for the half-smart bros)

Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by smallkitten »

pstuart wrote: post #12

It comes at a price point many can't afford. There should be more options. As noted elsewhere, it is powerful medicine and not without risks. But we also need to remember that many other medications come with significant risk as well, including suicidal ideation. So yes, it's powerful and should be treated with respect, but many of those other medications don't require you to spend thousands of dollars to have a baby…

Price point many can't afford??

You can get a growkit for 40USD and get four flushes of shrooms off of it.

All of this "baby sitter" BS is just so much BS. I'd rather be baby sitted by a friend than a nondescript "medical professional".

Almost makes me wanna say "wake up, sheeple"

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Podgajski wrote: post #137
davmre wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint: SSRIs were transformative for my depression. Side effects were minor and manageable (eg, Wellbutrin worked well to prevent any sexual dysfunction). I was on them for several years and had no problem tapering off. My understanding is that this is a pretty typical experience. Rhetoric like this was actively harmful in dissuading me for years from trying what ended up being by far the most effective treatm…

Prozac is my fun drug. It makes me hypo manic with one 20mg dose. I have schizoaffective disorder, bipolar type So I am prone to being more sensitive to SSRI. This is mostly to do with my genetically odd 5HT2A receptors. Depression is no longer really a part of my life anymore after I found I was zinc deficient. But now I do tend towards the manic and have issues with psychosis still so I need to be careful with my s…

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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by PawgerZ »

pstuart wrote: post #188
wfvr wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking of the same thing, and I think the ideal thing would be to use the psychedelics as a sacrament in the context of a weekend-long initiation ritual. Participants would travel into a remote forested location and go through activities and rituals that would give meaning to the psychedelic experience, as well as rituals and activities with the objective of integrating the psychedelic experience into the…

Woah! That was "the other spin" I had in mind. I've had "friends" in the OTO and that is something I'd like to avoid, but yes, please! My contact info is in my profile -- please ping me, as I'd love to get involved.

OTO?
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