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Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Yes. Remove the cat for either a straight pipe, or resonator. HKS silently discontinued their “catless” downpipes in the U.S. around 2021 for mentioned reasons above.

Is is still legal to saw off you cat and weld a length of pipe in? I guess it still is if you can drive 60's cars, so what's the point?

Legal in what respect? It wouldn't be legal to drive it

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Yes. Remove the cat for either a straight pipe, or resonator. HKS silently discontinued their “catless” downpipes in the U.S. around 2021 for mentioned reasons above.

Is is still legal to saw off you cat and weld a length of pipe in? I guess it still is if you can drive 60's cars, so what's the point?

It has never been legal in the US to remove any emissions equipment on any vehicle that is to be driven on the street. Even if it is outside of the smog check window, it still can not be removed or tampered with.

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It is somehow every single vehicle on the road with these. People should lose their license for operating a vehicle with the blinding LEDs tilted up higher than highbeams would be. It is unsafe that approaching drivers cannot see past them as they drive by.

Ugh yeah. It's that time of year where it gets dark early and I get blinded on the way home from work by all the bro-dozer truck lights and intense LEDs.

I get blinded by morons who have no idea that a normal H light bulb can be installed „the other way around”. So it points upwards.

And teslas but only when they drive behind. For whatever reason tesla lights blind when seen in the mirror.

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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Not really you're just an asshole.

Sure, but so is the guy with the loud car. What business of it is yours what two assholes do to each other?

All about your risk tolerance right? Some places the driver will start shooting at you at that point.

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> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

City council meetings are for this. They typically have a citizen comments section at the end of the meeting. Where I live, these citizen comments are beloved by wingnuts who hate their neighbors and are trying to convince the city to harass them. So - you know - try not to come off as one of those.

Agreed, per my comment the 1:1 meeting with your representative works well too. I don't know how common it is but I have found my city council member always willing to sit down for 5 - 20 minutes to hear what I have to say. Want to emphasize again though about doing a bit of research at the library about just what ordinances are involved and how to identify them for law enforcement to use. This helps your rep appear to be smart and well informed when they go to the police chief or city manager to ask them to "can you do something about this?" kind of request.

That saves waiting for your turn at the podium in the meeting and it avoids the wingnuts labeling you as the person "out to get them." Both are good things IMHO.

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If you seriously want to take action here, then do this; 1) Look up your city ordinances on sound, there should be copies of this is the reference section of your city's public library. Identify the ordinance and paragraph that the people nearby are violating. Record/video one or more violations on your phone. 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for viol…

> 2) Call the police, don't "complain about the noise", tell them you want to "swear out a complaint" for violating ordinance x, paragraph y. They are obligated to take your complaint and forward it to the District Attorney[1]. Good luck getting them to pick up. At least where I live (Seattle), I don't think its possible to get someone on the phone unless you call 911. Daytime phones automated system defers everythin…

For good reason, have you SEEN how crazy most of the public that would be calling is?

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> My understanding is that such parts are not by themselves illegal. The crime is actually using them on the road. My understanding was that they were legal for track purposes. ok, it's just a single datapoint, but motocross racetracks in New England, already built in the woods away from civilization, started requiring mufflers about 50 years ago, early 1970's

We’re not taking about mufflers. For example in California “Emissions defeat system” means you simply used an off-brand air filter that wasn’t blessed by the government. The parts may even be more efficient and less polluting, the government bureaucracy everyone here is worshipping doesn’t give a rats behind.

Which air filter? The engine air filter? I've never had a smog check that involves looking at that one. And AFAICT there's no RFID or anything in it, so it's not something they can check remotely

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There are many examples. Many SUV's in the US these days are only able to meet emissions requirements by automatically turning off the engine at stoplights or whenever the car comes to a stop. Many people find it annoying because there's a delay when you press the accelerator to go and then you press harder and the car then jumps. Most cars allow you to disable it, but you have to do it every time after you turn the…

IMHO such start/stop is a fraudulent way to meet MPG targets. Almost everyone I know presses the button to turn off the feature the moment they start their car.

Why the hell would you do that.

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Is is still legal to saw off you cat and weld a length of pipe in? I guess it still is if you can drive 60's cars, so what's the point?

Legal in what respect? It wouldn't be legal to drive it

So it's only legal to drive a catless car if it was manufactured that way 50 years ago?

Re: US sues eBay for allowing sale of emissions defeat devices

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This. More so for loud motorcycles, since cops tend to also own them.

I am in favor of louder pipes for motorcycles for safety reasons. But there is such a thing as too loud.

Which is the same reason every biker with loud pipes wears a full high-vis outfit.

Or maybe they're just assholes.

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