Earlier quoted context omitted.
Literally everywhere on the planet where it is still trivially possible to catch covid, so....everywhere.
By that logic we've been in a common cold pandemic for the last 200+ years
Ok, and?
The concurrence of three climatic events
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Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally, I like to prepare for the worst but hope for the best. I wish more people would take a reasonable middle approach like that. Are we still, as a society, allowed to do things like that? The reality is rarely "as bad as we imagined" OR "nothing is wrong at all".
I guess the problem I run into is that "the worst" as proposed by Doomers is usually so bad that there's no way for me to prepare for it except by becoming a full time prepper. And that just becomes exhausting to even consider, so it's easier to fall into the trap of either depression or complete inaction instead.
I've come to accept that I simply can't be prepared for everything.
I don't think my landlords would approve of a bunker. And where would I put it? The whole property is 25x75 feet.
"Prepare" is sometimes "realize that I'm completely screwed and I have to die of something someday".
Everything is temporary, after all, including me and you.
Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
#293I was skeptical, but when the author introduced "Hiroshimas per second" as a scale to measure temperature I understood that this was a truly scientific article.
Why does converting units for convenience nullify a scientific hypothesis? Please explain.
Who said it was nullifying the scientific hypothesis? On the contrary, it strengthens it significantly. I suggest he further strengthens his science by converting carbon emissions to Auschwitz' per minute, so that the everyday Joe gets a better grip on the numbers.
Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
#294A lot of comments deriding this article as alarmist. Excuse me if I'm incorrect in saying so, but even the data seems to tell me that alarmism is where we are at: This articles data. Incredible floods in Pakistan. Heat domes over the PNW. Fires in Australia, Canada, California. And now a warming event in the North Atlantic unlike any other. All of that and this is likely to be one of the coolest summers for the remai…
It's about 5⁰C cooler here today than yesterday. Crisis averted .
What I am trying to say is you cannot use specific weather events to talk about climate. And of course once you go into statistics, you will lose 55.3% of your persuasiveness.
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#295As this post hints at in the discussion of sulfur emissions at sea, all it takes to significantly slow global warming is one country or sufficiently motivated non-state actor deciding to go all-in on geoengineering (like seeding the stratosphere with sulfur dioxides). Compare this to the collective action problem of everyone, including rapidly industrializing poorer countries, spending trillions to decarbonize their…
I don't think people watching their cars rust before their eyes will go over well. Did we forget acid rain already? 1991 was not that long ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/09/news/new-paint-new-cars-a...
Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
#296A lot of comments deriding this article as alarmist. Excuse me if I'm incorrect in saying so, but even the data seems to tell me that alarmism is where we are at: This articles data. Incredible floods in Pakistan. Heat domes over the PNW. Fires in Australia, Canada, California. And now a warming event in the North Atlantic unlike any other. All of that and this is likely to be one of the coolest summers for the remai…
It's about 5⁰C cooler here today than yesterday. Crisis averted . What I am trying to say is you cannot use specific weather events to talk about climate. And of course once you go into statistics, you will lose 55.3% of your persuasiveness.
Weather events, by themselves, are just individual data points. But once you start looking at the big picture, it's difficult to not notice patterns. And said patterns are extremely alarming.
Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
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Bill Gates has been buying up water reserves, has investments in polluting industries, and he's got an interest in keeping the public thinking it's "not so bad". It is. Bill Gates is also behind the "our world in data" series on youtube, that consistently misrepresents climate science to make it seem like we can solve it with enough "green industry", when the only real solution is degrowth, we can't afford to keep si…
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Bill Gates purchased farms clandestinely on a massive scale
Clandestine means secrete and illegal. If it was secret, how do you know about it and if it was illegal, what was illegal about it?
Bill Gates famously funded a "mini-nukes" company to make smaller footprint nuclear power plants, and portable nuclear generators.
So what? Where is the connection to a smaller nuclear reactor coming from?
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Hm, I do get why people trying to be optimistic always bring up examples from the past to extrapolate that "humanity will always find solutions". What I don't get is that the same people simply overlook that we're not talking about single symptoms with a simple cause but about a root cause (emitting co2) which is deeply integrated into all our actions and economies and humanity is struggling dealing with that for at…
Consuming food wasn't deeply integrated into all our actions and economies? Oil? > extrapolate that "humanity will always find solutions" Good thing I didn't do that! Doomers, however, do extrapolate failure. They walk far out on a branch and forget they are carrying the burden of proof. That's my entire point.
Well climate scientists have collected more proof than ever in the last 2 decades to back the models and predictions. What we see is _measured_, not just opinion.
And if you happen to read a bit about how biological systems, the weather systems, our economical systems, food supply et al. work together while keeping in mind that IPCC reports are _conservative_ about their predictions (meaning they rather underestimate than overestimate), you should really deeply be worried about the near-future outcome of the ongoings.
Just because we successfully hacked our nutrition system a 100ys ago does not mean that we'll be able to cope with how consumerism and agricultural intensification afterwards affects us with dozens of new problems. At some point it just gets too expensive and/or too complex for humans to solve.
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#299I fear that this is the year "wet-bulb temperature" becomes a term regular households across the world become deeply familiar with. It may be as ubiquitous as the term "social distancing" became. I've always naively thought that climate disaster was still 10-20 years out, but it seems like it's going to begin in earnest now and instead be completely catastrophic after these next 10 years. What can I as an individual…
I dount it'll help you much to move. We've got drought and fire here in Sweden already. Never rains anymore. Slaugherhouses fullbooked already becauae the probability of being able to keep the livestock fed and watered looks pretty bad already...
People usually get angry with this view, but I think soon enough meat consumption will become too expensive to be viable to most of the population.
Re: The concurrence of three climatic events
#300I fear that this is the year "wet-bulb temperature" becomes a term regular households across the world become deeply familiar with. It may be as ubiquitous as the term "social distancing" became. I've always naively thought that climate disaster was still 10-20 years out, but it seems like it's going to begin in earnest now and instead be completely catastrophic after these next 10 years. What can I as an individual…
> I've always naively thought that climate disaster was still 10-20 years out You can hardly be blamed for that, they've been saying it was one way or another since at least the 1970's. Literally none of their doomsday scenarios have occurred as stated yet. My bet is, rather than bovine farts and air for plant-life, the major climate driver will turn out to be what it always has been... 1 million earths-worth chaotic…
> And if there is a human aspect to it
lol
> sensible observations
Please share how you've conducted your observations in a rigorous way, no one will blame you for it, that's how science progresses...
> "consensus"
lol