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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by actionfromafar »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #252
moremetadata wrote: post #187

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Surprisingly, I upvoted for teaching me that the earthquake bomb was actually a thing and used in the wild: > It was used to disable the V2 launch sites at La Coupole and Blockhaus d'Éperlecques, put out of action the V-3 cannon sites at Fortress of Mimoyecques, sink the battleship Tirpitz and damage the U-boats' protective pens at St. Nazaire, as well as to attack many other targets which had been impossible to dama…

Yes, but people will connect this factual bomb to something magic which can cause a region wide earthquakes. Undetected, of course, masquerading as a natural event.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by Kiro »

macintux wrote: post #235
tradertef wrote: post #191

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As a Turk, I do not trust people who are using Turkiye in English. That is virtue signaling which is saying they are populist, nationalist etc. etc. I also find the change idiotic at the least though I understand why they did it.

When working with people of different nationalities and ethnicities I emphasize trying to pronounce their names correctly. Why is this different?

What? If you would try to say my country's name in my native language instead of the English version when speaking English I would think you were a nutcase.

Similarly my given name has an English pronunciation that I prefer people use when speaking English. Someone trying to pronounce it natively without being native would feel extremely awkward and not respectful at all.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by [deleted] »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #279
andybak wrote: post #189

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Except you can start your own subreddit and choose your own moderation policies. The inaccurately named /r/conservative has a lot of traffic and there are many more.

That's a funny joke considering 99% of subs which don't carry water is eventually banned for "misinformation" and is filled with bad actors and sock puppets.

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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by gwright »

saiya-jin wrote: post #57

This is playbook of scumbag tyrants, doesn't matter if Putin, Erdogan or similar. I for sure hope EU politicians are taking a note too, there are 2 existential threats to democratic free Europe long term - Russia and Turkey. Both have same ambitions, are on completely opposite side of all crucial values free world holds dear. Luckily their competence severely lags behind their ambitions, to think Turkey was for some…

> This is playbook of scumbag tyrants, doesn't matter if Putin, Erdogan or similar.

I think you are being generous. The use of force is certainly a more extreme manifestation of the problem, but framing speech that you disagree with as "disinformation", "misinformation", "harmful", "hateful", "dangerous", "offensive", and so on is a technique used by petty tyrants and scumbag tyrants alike.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by sgjohnson »

LarryMullins wrote: post #213
coffeeblack wrote: post #67

Just like in China with the anti-lockdown protests. The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one.

> The people who are recognisable on social media posts from the protests have all been arrested by now. They waited just long enough to make people forget about it before they picked them up one by one. Same deal as with that Bundy/Overpass standoff between militia types and the Feds a few years ago. The Feds showed up, saw the number of men with rifles, turned around and went home. Mission accomplished right? The m…

But charges against Bundy were dropped, weren’t they?

And those arrests didn’t really amount to anything, did they?

So yes, I’d say mission accomplished.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by sampo »

smcn wrote: post #170
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #112

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The solution to bad speech is more speech. Not less.

That would only be the solution if the problem was bad speech. The problem is that algorithms optimise for engagement and therefore amplify increasingly extremist views. You cannot talk your way out of that position, it surely must include intervention?

Maybe you also cannot algorithm out of the position that algorithms took you in.

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Post by Hrun0 »

poulpy123 wrote: post #201
mrtksn wrote: post #20

Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

I've read report that Turkey bombarded part of Kurdish syria that suffered from the earthquake yesterday

They also claimed that Turkey apparently used Nukes.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by coolbreezetft22 »

colpabar wrote: post #69
sidewndr46 wrote: post #55

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Why does this make Erdogan a fool? edit: I legitimately have no idea why I am being downvoted. Can someone explain?

Because when western leaders want to censor information, they claim said information is a "threat to democracy", and everyone just trusts them. (not that it would work - it seems like turkish people actually know how to protest)

What a weird comment

Erdogan has for past the decade regularly arrested critical journalists and opposition politicians on very flimsy trumped up charges.

In America there is a massive and lucrative media industry dedicated to attacking whichever politician/party happens to be in power, alongside half of social media at any given time. It's pretty clear political freedom in the West is much stronger than in Turkey right now

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Post by geysersam »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #68
golergka wrote: post #39

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This is one of many, many reasons why western countries and social media companies should not normalise censorship re-branded like "fighting disinformation".

These companies are already in the dark deep of hyper partisan censorship. Take reddit for example. Nearly every sub is a left wing echo chamber, with essentially the same comment being made, and opposing viewpoints hidden, shadow-banned, or deleted under the guise of 'disinformation' even if they are factually accurate. Some of it is partly driven by liaisons within US and other governments, and supported by media.…

That depends where one finds oneself on the political scale. A communist is only going to find neoliberal semi fascist conservative consensus where someone on the extreme right finds a socialist echo chamber.

What reasonable viewpoints do you perceive are being deleted and accused of being disinformation?

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