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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by tradertef »

blagie wrote: post #90
can16358p wrote: post #19

Turkish here. This is unbelievable, but totally expected from the current "democractic" government. Social media usage is very high in Türkiye and people are coordinating using social media (mainly Twitter) for rescue operations in near realtime. I'm pretty much sure some people will literally die under wreckage because of communication interruptions as the result of this block. (For anyone telling to use VPN, yeah,…

Off-topic: Do most people there prefer "Türkiye" or "Turkey?"

As a Turk, I do not trust people who are using Turkiye in English. That is virtue signaling which is saying they are populist, nationalist etc. etc. I also find the change idiotic at the least though I understand why they did it.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by seydor »

diimdeep wrote: post #153
seydor wrote: post #145

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I didn't realize that HN was included in Erdogan's bot army targets

I dare you to say something constructive instead of this 'bot' calling. Here is video to prove my theory [0] [0] Prank with Former United States National Security Advisor John Bolton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=895Y5G5E6g8

people using social media is not 'chaos and hysteria'. there are rescue teams on the ground , reporters etc many of whom are using twitter and certainly blockign a communication medium , any medium , in an destroyed area with devastated infrastructure under severe cold is an evil that Allah won't forgive.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by bamboozled »

mrtksn wrote: post #20

Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

Another angry old guy...

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by swasheck »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #112
beefield wrote: post #87

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How do you propose western countries and social media companies fight disinformation?

The solution to bad speech is more speech. Not less.

the low s/n then makes it about who can be loudest and/or most provocative. i don’t disagree that disinformation shouldn’t just be squelched, but it’s not as simple as “education” or “more speech” and as humans we tend to prefer the path of lead resistance.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by dmix »

widowlark wrote: post #162
jrochkind1 wrote: post #100

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Do you think it will actually harm Erdogan's support though, anger over blocking twitter?

Is his popular support relevant when he has his hands on the levers of government operations?

I'm curious if Erdogan will attempt an I'm-president-until-I'm-dead move the way Putin and Xi Jinping did.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by Cyph0n »

blagie wrote: post #134
nextaccountic wrote: post #113

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In some years, this will become a non-issue

It will become a non-issue once all keyboards have a "ü" button. :) Which might not actually be that long.

Why is everyone focused on the umlaut? If you don’t have the button, use a “u” and move on.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by jrochkind1 »

widowlark wrote: post #162
jrochkind1 wrote: post #100

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Do you think it will actually harm Erdogan's support though, anger over blocking twitter?

Is his popular support relevant when he has his hands on the levers of government operations?

I think it's probably relevant, yes -- he is in fact fairly popular, historically. (So is Putin). It's harder to keep your hands on the levers of power the less support you have, even if it can still be done with increasing force, it's a threat.

But I'm interested in hearing with Turkish HN users think.

Note that the comment I replied to, from a Turkish user, suggested "They are only interested in the optics and looking strong for the upcoming election", suggesting that, yes, Erdogan cares about popularity.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by icepat »

moremetadata wrote: post #187
mrtksn wrote: post #20

Erdogan's first speech was almost 2 days after the earthquake and he said "We are monitoring who said what on the social media and tried to provoke the people. Today it's not the day to go after those but we take notes and when the day comes, we will go after them". Just look at his face when delivering this speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doy38aKbMw4 It's like from V for Vendetta. The lighting choice is very…

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Can you explain what makes this account a sock-puppet account, or how they're causing trouble? The comment makes valid points, and provides useful information.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by jcranmer »

Tomte wrote: post #154
saltymug76 wrote: post #150

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Genuinely curious, what has Lithuania done to stand up against China? And any suggestions on potential things one would buy from them over China? I would like to buy more from countries and people who aren't whipped by the CCP.

They opened a diplomatic representation in Taiwan.

And refused to back down when China did its standard put-them-in-the-doghouse routine.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Post by dkural »

blagie wrote: post #128
alex3305 wrote: post #110

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There was an official name change [1] to Türkiye. 1. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2/un-registers-turkiye...

I'm very well aware of that. Whenever I've been on the receiving end of a name change like that, I (and everyone I knew) found it obnoxious. However, cultures differ. Turkey has a long history with name changes, and has been rather aggressive about them. When it became "Turkey," the post office wouldn't deliver mail unless the new name was used. Likewise, the capital has gone through two names since "Byzantium." I wa…

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