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Post by YellOh »

tekknik wrote: post #276
zamalek wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I am a person who would want millions spent to save my life, but despite that I take further issue with all this: people who refuse treatment are forced into a hospice because they are not allowed to choose euthanasia. You either suffer through a shit medical system, or have a needlessly painful/uncomfortable death.

> treatment are forced into a hospice because they are not allowed to choose euthanasia. Killing babies is OK and now so is euthanasia? But suicide is used as ammunition to remove access to guns?

These arguments seem unrelated. Any combination of opinions of the availability of abortions, the availability of euthanasia, and the availability of guns is possible. I'm not entirely sure who you're trying to strawman here (I'd say a generic liberal, except the liberals I've heard argue against gun ownership are way more upset about mass shootings than suicides).

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Post by kashunstva »

bane wrote: post #104

Almost exactly 18 months ago, my then 87 year old father, after feeling unwell and having some fluid problems with his lungs was diagnosed with stage-4 lung cancer. He turned down treatment and died at home a couple days before Christmas last year. I've come away from the experience very unhappy with the medical system. There's a long list, things that in any other industry would be prosecuted. The medical and hospic…

> f*ck the American medical system

To call it a _system_ is generous because it implies a goal-oriented design where each component fits together intentionally. This in no way describes healthcare in the U.S. If you have unlimited time, money, access, and medical knowledge, you can find ways to put together what you need. But lack one or more of those elements, and good luck to you.

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Post by terran57 »

ethics13 wrote: post #165
terran57 wrote: post #110

Two very personal experiences to relate. --- My father died 7 weeks after he was diagnosed with liver cancer - 11 days past his 62nd birthday. Prior to the diagnosis, he was going to take early retirement at 62 and travel with my mother. He had lots of other plans for post-retirement that he never got to realize. --- A close friend of mine died of heart cancer (well, technically, he died from complications of having…

Did your dad drink? I ask because my dad died of the same (although they never did find the origin other than liver) and he was not a drinker.

Yes, in his earlier life he did, but he had really cut down on drinking in the preceding few years. Reflecting back on that time, I would say he knew something was wrong but was in denial about it.

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Post by 2143 »

(Pardon my insensitive language — this is my way of coping).

A few years ago while casually wandering YouTube I stumbled across a video [1] of a young girl explaining that her cancer is at a point of no return.

Her name is Sophia Gall and she's from Australia.

Apparently, she had cancer previously and underwent treatment. Unfortunately the cancer recurred.

In the video she's pretty much scared, crying and hopeless.

She did mention she'll be traveling around. Eventually, there were videos of her from Paris and a few other places. She seemed pretty cheerful then.

Months — maybe a year — later I remembered her and seeked her YouTube channel. From the comments on her latest video that was released several months before, I learnt that she passed away.

In her last few videos, apart from the physical pain she was surprisingly composed. Like, she had accepted her fate.

I don't know why I said all that here. That whole thing about Sophia had thoroughly moved me.

[1] https://youtu.be/yWiIyvQaNiQ

(While searching for her video, I discovered that there's a whole bunch of youtubers with cancer.)

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Post by LawTalkingGuy »

rightbyte wrote: post #151
cj wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Fine company” will just turn into higher costs for consumers. If raising the price of Coke is the goal, I believe there are already proposals for a sugar tax in various jurisdictions. Let’s tax the hell out of processed foods so they become at least on par with the price of healthy food. It’s very tricky since taxes like that will hurt low income households the most. Another option: ban advertising of heavily proces…

> Let’s tax the hell out of processed foods so they become at least on par with the price of healthy food. Isn't processed food already more expensive than "healthy"? E.g. precut fries vs potatoes. Etc. What is cheaper to buy processed?

Damage during shipping and easier handling.

Processing is a chance to use seconds - damaged or ugly potatoes that nobody would buy, and it packs more product into less space and with an easier storage mechanism (freeze) than properly packing to keep it fresh. Employees can throw boxes of frozen food onto a belt where they have to gently place boxes of fresh food.

Even with a well run shipping company and no problems you'll have a fair bit of spoilage and it means that every box is at risk of full rot (a bad apple...) and needs a human to sort through and pull it out. There are buyers of last resort at every stage of the journey who will take freshly damaged produce for immediate usage but they're often soup kitchens who can barely afford to pay.

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Post by LawTalkingGuy »

NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #127
nick__m wrote: post #15

My wife has one metastasis on her spine , it was detected 33 day ago, I fear that moment where she will be suffering enough that she will qualify for medically assisted death. According to the paper accompanying her incredibly expensive drugs (5700$/month) she has between twelve and eighty-eight months left ... I hope that she will cost money to my insurance for a long time! According to her oncologist we cannot know…

> (5700$/month) How is this not profiteering?

The problem isn't (specifically) profiteering, it's unequal access. Those drugs are probably a vastly different price if your big insurance company buys them than they are if you're forced to buy them on your own.

I'd like to see there being one price per drug with a small quantity modifier for bulk purchases.

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Post by lcall »

2143 wrote: post #295

(Pardon my insensitive language — this is my way of coping). A few years ago while casually wandering YouTube I stumbled across a video [1] of a young girl explaining that her cancer is at a point of no return. Her name is Sophia Gall and she's from Australia. Apparently, she had cancer previously and underwent treatment. Unfortunately the cancer recurred. In the video she's pretty much scared, crying and hopeless. S…

That kind of thing is indeed moving.

I have learned for myself that life, existence, doesn't end at death. Our choices matter, and there is hope for good things to come, depending on our further choices. More at my web site (in profile, nothing for sale, tech-simple site).

(ps: the good things to come can include family ties and significant learning & growth: better, I would say, than this life, again depending on our choices.)

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Post by umvi »

no_time wrote: post #215
umvi wrote: post #99

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> To end on a positive note As a religious person this is actually like the most negative note imaginable for me. I mean, sure, I'll grant you life after death is "terrifying" in a "fear of the unknown" sense, but I would definitely prefer seeing deceased loved ones again and continuing to learn and progress after death vs. ceasing to exist.

An eternity to be concious is a long time. Over an infinite amount of time it can go wrong in an infinite number of ways. Seeing your loved ones is great. Exhausting the total combination of everything you can express with english words. Do you continue to make up new concepts forever to keep yourself entertained?

> Seeing your loved ones is great. Exhausting the total combination of Well assuming everyone is conscious in the next life and can interact with each other, then that would lead one to assume next life has technology at least as good as ours, if not better since it collectively contains the sum knowledge of every human who has ever lived. Unless we are just disembodied consciousnesses that can't interact with matter anymore. In any case though, the mere existence of an afterlife in which you can visit with deceased loved ones is a strong sign there is a benevolent God over all and I'm sure said God would help solve the boredom problem. So I'm not terribly worried either way. Cease to exist = can't worry about it. Continue to be conscious = won't worry about it.

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Post by ss108 »

YellOh wrote: post #291
tekknik wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> treatment are forced into a hospice because they are not allowed to choose euthanasia. Killing babies is OK and now so is euthanasia? But suicide is used as ammunition to remove access to guns?

These arguments seem unrelated. Any combination of opinions of the availability of abortions, the availability of euthanasia, and the availability of guns is possible. I'm not entirely sure who you're trying to strawman here (I'd say a generic liberal, except the liberals I've heard argue against gun ownership are way more upset about mass shootings than suicides).

He's not really trying to strawman anyone, he's either a nut or a troll.
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