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There’s another comment already moving the goalposts: “sure it’s more repairable now but what about the closed software????”.
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Swift is great. Apple should use it more.
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> Why would anyone try to sell me a device by talking about how easy it is to repair it? I guess Framework laptops must have a hidden compartment full of gold, because they keep selling like hotcakes.
How many millions of laptops they have sold so far? Are they selling over 10 million a year thanks to the superb repairability? I like Framework, it's nice concept and if I had a few thousand dollars expandable money I would definitely buy one to fiddle with.
You're moving the goalposts.
> Why would anyone try to sell me a device by talking about how easy it is to repair it? What I expect is that it would never need a repair and if it needs a repair the vendor will handle it.
Because people value reparability, which someone posted evidence for. Buying a computing device that you can use and depend on for decades is a laudable goal, and reparability is table stakes for that goal because stuff breaks.
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You are at liberty to buy other products and leave these to those who are happy about the security considerations.
Hey, if Apple doesn't want to follow the new Right to Repair laws, then it can shutdown the company or move to a different country.
They have an obligation to follow the law as much as any other company.
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#294I dunno, this article reads... strange.
I mean yeah, it is nice to be able to open it from front and rear. But what good does it make when they pair every single component to the motherboard? Yeah, technically parts are more accessible (physically) but thats only the beginning of the repair process. And unless you can buy genuine parts without hassle and put them in, you are still SOL.
To me it is like cheering that murderer did not also litter I mean I guess it is kinda nice of him, but...
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#295Now if they would just get rid of those hideous camera bumps. Why not make the phone a millimeter thicker and fill the extra space with battery?
I find my iPhone 13 Pro to be heavy as it is, I don't want the phones to become heavier.
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#296Now if they would just get rid of those hideous camera bumps. Why not make the phone a millimeter thicker and fill the extra space with battery?
I’m with you except making the battery bigger would make it heavier and I think my 13 Pro is pretty heavy already…
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There’s also very nice people working for Oracle. That doesn’t really reflect on how decisions are taken and what priorities are set at the higher level.
This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers. Maybe they’re evil and view this as a tool to dominate the world. Maybe they think these are genuinely beneficial decisions for their customers. Who knows.
> This is just nonsensical speculating, unless we understand the internal motivations of Apple’s decision makers
No, your reasoning is nonsensical, you can defend anything with that argument. If you apply it to the rest of the world then no one can do evil because you can never know someone's true motivations... at a certain point you have to draw conclusions from actions, and it's pretty hard to see Apple's actions as not intending to maximise wealth extraction at this point, sure "tech" stuff still happens there out of some necessity and momentum, but the people at the helm clearly have a singular goal.
If your argument is merely that strong inference is flawed, then you are in for a lot of disappointment with reality in general, since 99.9% of what everyone does every day is based upon it out of necessity.
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I do like both security and freedom. How do we get both in this scenario? Have the iOS device ask the user for permission to allow unverified hardware to work? Also have a periodic reminder that unverified hardware is installed and the possible consequences?
> Have the iOS device ask the user for permission to allow unverified hardware to work? Why is 'asking the user' out of the question? If Apple detects a non-OEM component, then give me a modal when I power the device on asking me if I want to enable it. I certainly don't trust Apple to make that decision for me, everything they've done in the past suggests that they're primarily motivated by increasing profit margins…
A company that wants to make money? Gasp, say it ain't so!
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I disagree that integrity protection is necessary across many components of the phone. There should be integrity protection on the SoC, and then all other components should be untrusted. Sure, that means someone can proxy the fingerprint sensor or put on a fake screen that shows a fake consent dialogue. But I think that is an acceptable risk - after all, you can never protect against someone making an entirely new de…
> But I think that is an acceptable risk And I think it is unacceptable. That doesn't mean that you also have to think the same thing, but I would rather not have that option taken away from me. I also don't think that you have made a case for any similar-security implementation for integrity protection. I think distributed trust is the only way to make trustworthy components, and the only known-good way to do that i…
> And I think it is unacceptable.
If you're uncomfortable with the idea of buying potentially backdoored hardware, what makes you comfortable using backdoored software? I don't understand the "hardware matters but software doesn't" threat model. It certainly doesn't benefit you in any pragmatic sense, the best it will do is give you warm fuzzies while Apple adds your OCSP data to a running tab for your iCloud account.
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> Have the iOS device ask the user for permission to allow unverified hardware to work? Why is 'asking the user' out of the question? If Apple detects a non-OEM component, then give me a modal when I power the device on asking me if I want to enable it. I certainly don't trust Apple to make that decision for me, everything they've done in the past suggests that they're primarily motivated by increasing profit margins…
A company that wants to make money? Gasp, say it ain't so!
It wouldn't be so distressing if they weren't already valued beyond a trillion dollars.