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DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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That was fast, looks like artists can't tell, AI wins first prize in an art competition! https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwo...

Those are garbage western judges. Modernism really destroyed representational art in the west. Try a competition with Russians or Italians running the jury. Or ARC-recognized atelier instructors.

Are they particularly good at telling the difference between wet neural nets and dry ones?

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post #283

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What if there is critical visual content in the half of the view that you're removing. Television is a visual medium, one could assume that a good filmmaker would be using the full viewport afforded them.

I’m saying adding is better than removing, and removing is terrible.

Not as terrible sometimes, since often television shows and films “protect” for different aspect ratios (yes this is a thing). So people might shoot 16:9 and protect (basically make sure you have a readable frame) for 4:3 or you can shoot Scope and protect for 16:9.

It’s not perfect but if the filmmakers thought of it it can be ok.

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Agreed. Unfortunately, it's just a matter of time before someone develops a similar open source project that someone uses for unsavory purposes.

A problem is that training huge model costs $$. https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1563870674111832066 I wonder is it possible to distribute the task for volunteer's idle GPU (like BOINC)

The porn industry is much more than $600k. If there's a business model/need for deepfake porn somebody would do it eventually.

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The parent may be non-profit, but OpenAI LP accepts investments and delivers returns to investors like any other regular company. The only difference is that they 'cap' the returns. However, the cap is negotiated with individuals investor and I haven't seen anything disclosing the cap except for the fact that in the opening round the cap was 100x the initial investment. 100x seems like a pretty generous cap to me.

I'm not a business investor so I can't really tell if x100 is "a lot" or not — Apple and Amazon share prices went up by x500 in the last 20 years, Tesla x200 in the last 10. But how rare is that?

They call them unicorns for a reason.

Re: DALL·E: Introducing Outpainting

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Damn, Dall-E really lost its competitive edge overnight when Stable Diffusion was released. They dropped their prices across the board in response, but honestly I think it still isn't enough to save them. The magic of open-source competition.

They dropped the prices for GPT-3, not for Dall-E.

Oh shoot, I thought it was for everything. Fair enough. Although I think new competitive features like Outpainting are definitely in response to Stable Diff

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How does Stable Diffusion compare to DALL-E in terms of features/capabilities? I've used DALL-E/DALL-E-2, but have yet to try Stable Diffusion. Can someone give me some insight?

SD is very capable, especially considering it runs on like 6GB of VRAM (we don’t know on what A100 96GB VRAM clusters DALL-E runs), but you will need to be more specific with your prompts to achieve comparable results. Img2img mode where you provide SD a sketch and a textual description of what you want to achieve abd it figures out result is a killer! https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wzlmty/its... K…

Thanks for the info. I'll check it out. Img2img mode looks incredible.

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Meanwhile someone has already built a photoshop plugin for Stable Diffusion that you can use today to do basically the _exact_ same thing: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/sho...

Doesn't make sense to me why OpenAI has kept DALL-E closed source for so long. I can only guess either safety from misuse or leveraging it for money. At this rate though, Stable Diffusion is going to dwarf it

I think they wanted to keep public attention on this technology “positive” for as long as possible by curating the art that becomes public. Long enough to position themselves profitably. Eventually this technology will serve as a window into the minds of teenage boy gamers and 4channers and the general public will be disgusted.

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post #147

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While I think the fear might be overexaggerated, being able to make realistic fake content with such ease means it's harder to know what's true and what's not. Plus this has been the claim of OpenAI from the beginning. It's possible the true objective is to keep it private to leverage for money and this is just their excuse.

> means it's harder to know what's true and what's not The danger for society is in not already knowing that is the case, since it's relatively trivial, without AI, to make fake content.

Like every new technology that came before, it’s a tool that will be used for good and for nefarious purposes. Some tools are powertools. There will be new benefits, but be prepared for a new raft of modern problems.

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post #293

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A problem is that training huge model costs $$. https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1563870674111832066 I wonder is it possible to distribute the task for volunteer's idle GPU (like BOINC)

The porn industry is much more than $600k. If there's a business model/need for deepfake porn somebody would do it eventually.

Porn industry will happily pay but I suspect that they won't open source it.

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post #128

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I'm not the person who suggested it, but I wouldn't mind having it fill my (wide)screen when watching. That said, I understand that some film/tv uses the frame very precisely, however I'm not sure that these two particular examples do that throughout their entire episodes. (Though I bet that in Seinfeld in particular it might weaken/ruin a few visual gags.)

Still seems to me like adding fluff - it seems a bit impossible to me that the AÍ would add anything pertinent to the plot. It would add “stuff” like corridors and background sets and maybe someone out of focus. Do the black bars actually bother you that much? You know there are cropped 16:9 widescreen versions of some of these shows (which I personally detest, but I work in the business of moving images). Genuinely…

It doesn't bother me much (if the show is good, I don't realize it after maybe 5 minutes), hence why I said "I wouldn't mind..." instead of something harder. But it'd be interesting to see what would happen if shows were expanded frame-wise like this... The 16:9 cropped widescreens you mentioned take something away, whereas expanding the frame with AI adds something, and theoretically if you don't want it you can just matte it out and still have the original. It seems like a more advanced version of Ambilights.

I think we still have a ways to go before the results would work well without looking like those nightmarish deepdream videos where things are constantly shifting, so society will have plenty of time to discuss the merits.

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