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When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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This is worse than it looks, since the person who wrote the blog post is the same person who insulted the dev, and is the same person who joined that dev's related discord under a pseudonym. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761

Jesus christ, this behavior would have gotten me in deep shit in any place I've worked

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Baffles me that people think sarcasm is a good way to communicate on the internet. You are begging to be misunderstood, either accidentally, or maliciously.

Re-read what you just wrote and break down what you said: > Baffles me that people think sarcasm is a good way to communicate on the internet. The subtext here is that the idea of using sarcasm on the internet should be obviously stupid to everyone, thus you're stating anyone who exercises it is stupid. That or you're clearly smarter than everyone else. > You are begging to be misunderstood, either accidentally, or m…

> people posting on the internet do invest much thought most of the time.

i would like to sign up for the internet you're on. where can i send my money?

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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This is way above my pay grade. Just don’t take anything personal. Being defensive / know best is in this industry everywhere at all levels and organizations. Being humble in general is hard, being humble in code reviews is harder, being humble to Internet comments in any forum… sometimes impossible. Then repeat that with two super genius experts - eek. You find everyone is usually trying their best if you ever have…

Oh yeah, for sure. I can't tell you how much I regret being that defensive about something that benign. This was certainly a life lesson. I've apologized to Casey in person before (well, to my best ability) and I'll apologize again if given the opportunity to do so. I just wish people wouldn't say I'm taking credit, when it's an old, widely used idea and when I spent such an incredible amount of time reading and unde…

Maybe you should post in that github thread pointing out to the people originally arguing with Casey that the solution is in fact trivial and that he was right all along. It sounds like you and he are both on the same side in this discussion.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Cut scene to me explaining my new product to a Google VP (hoping to get funding) who instead made a crappy copy and released it 6 months later. Don't meet your heroes.

This really is every org, even if someone starts lukewarm to an idea it can percolate, get established and then come back out again as a fresh opinion without any malice intended. It’s always fun to get your own ideas back almost verbatim.

Even in this case they seemingly "forgot" the idea that was told to them. I don't doubt that this is a possibility, but there is also a possibility that they could've just stolen it.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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we hope that you will accept our apology and understand we’re humans behind this product with a capability and willingness to learn from our past mistakes. Seems pretty sincere and decent to me.

If we’re being critical it’s missing the “we apologize” and skips to “hope you accept our apology” and then jumps down a “we’re only human” escape hatch.

How is “we hope you accept our apology” not an apology?

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Hi! I'm the person who wrote that blog post. If you have any questions whatsoever, please let me know! English is not my native language and "The solution is trivial" was meant sarcastic. The solution isn't trivial at all, nor is it complete, because solving the corner cases is complex. I'd also like to mention ahead of time that DirectWrite/Direct2D is very fast at drawing western (Latin) text without coloring (>200…

If you don't mind a comment about your English, I'd suggest that what you wrote seems like it's better described as "tongue in cheek" than "sarcastic". "Sarcastic" can have connotations of meanness or snarkiness whereas "tongue in cheek" suggests good-natured joking, which seems to match the tone of the original post better.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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Perhaps leave sarcasm out of technical blog posts, or add a footnote to indicate sarcasm? I couldn't tell you were being sarcastic and it seems others couldn't as well. I only found out through this comment. Text is the worst medium for sarcasm since sarcasm is often signaled by vocal inflection or body language, neither of which are present in your post.

Baffles me that people think sarcasm is a good way to communicate on the internet. You are begging to be misunderstood, either accidentally, or maliciously.

Communication isn't always the primary goal of things put on the internet.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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And the Windows Terminal team reeks of this. There's so many blog posts saying look, we're so smart because they're reimplementing something both Linux and macOS had for *years*, as if the whole world of CLI was waiting for their savior.

> There's so many blog posts saying look, we're so smart Have you read Casey's twitter feed? The man routinely goes into long twitter thread rants about how stupid everyone else is. His favorite target seems to be...drumroll please...large corporation software teams.

He's not wrong though. Large corp software teams, paradoxically, tend to run stupid even if comprised of smart people.

Re: When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided"

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But sticking "Sorry" does? Your whole post was Ctrl-F for a keyword, while refusing a synonym.

But there is no "We apologize" either. There is a "we hope you (the community) accept the apology" - which apology ?! there wasn't one to begin with, because there is no "I/We apologize/are sorry" in the first place. And the apology should go to the individual harmed, not to the "community"

I find the format of "I've done wrong; please accept my apology" to be common and sufficient; clearly we have different expectations though -- or they are getting unanticipated amount of pedantic and semantic scrutiny (which in turn will eliminate posts like this, we'll get more corpo-santized-PR, but somehow I don't think that'll make people happy either :).
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