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The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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My wife was summoned for jury duty, and the case had to do with sexual abuse. At jury selection time they ask if a prospective juror would have difficulty being impartial because of the nature of the case. If you were uncomfortable discussing the matter, you could ask to be taken aside to discuss without the others in the room hearing it. Out of a few dozen people, seven women left the room to explain why they could…

When I was in a jury pool for a murder trial, I remember being shocked at how many people raised their hand when the question of whether they had personal experience with murder was asked. I figured barely anyone would raise their hand, but so many people had either had a close family member murdered, or were themselves accused of murder at some point. I really realized how sheltered my life has been.

The US is an extremely violent place. On most violent crime categories, it ranks highest among developed nations.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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The initial comment here adds to the discussion of the impact on female development, without making a grandiose claim that no one cares. Both your comment and the flagged comment make that claim. It seems much more so the case that people can care about how bad actions affect both female and male victims than the hypothesis you propose. And, in fact, straight white men can be in a position of power, and have advantag…

>people can care about how bad actions affect both female and male victims than the hypothesis you propose. They can, but that doesn't mean they do. It is dangerous to be caught caring about men or boys. Consider this recent SNL skit "man park": https://youtu.be/9XOt2Vh0T8w?t=131 . I've linked to the part where a woman is saying something sympathetic to men, and then panics that she'll be caught on camera saying it.…

> It is dangerous to be caught caring about men or boys.

Not at all in my experience. Comedy skits aren't evidence, or we could have some very interesting discussions!

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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If it was going to be mandatory it would be much better to do it before birth using amniotic fluid. Waiting for the child to be born and then suddenly telling one parent that it's not their biological child isn't a great idea.

It can be done with a noninvasive blood test of the mother. I am a firm proponent of mandatory testing so fathers aren’t financially responsible for children that aren’t theirs (without their knowledge and consent). Historically, if a father later determines they're not the biological parent, family court will still stick them with child support until the child is 18 (or even older, sometimes requiring college suppor…

Wow, NIPP testing is very cool - didn't know about that.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Exactly. The juror's ignorance or lack of direct experience with the alleged offense does not make him less able to evaluate the evidence. It is the prosecution's job to present the evidence with enough clarity to remove reasonable doubt.

But it does play a part if the jurors lack critical context. If no one on the jury can understand how a victim of sexual assault could be frozen during an attack, they might fall into the trap of thinking things like "how could it have been rape if she never said 'no'?" or alternatively, they could cling to some things like a male victim being aroused and assume that means the act was consensual. One could argue that…

I think it is up to the prosecutor and expert witnesses to deal with that. The presumption is that the defendant is innocent. If the prosecution can not make a convincing case to an impartial jury (not an expert jury), then the defendant goes free. It's not perfect, but it seems better than the alternatives.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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It sounds like the professor made it clear she was speaking in terms of population averages. So unless you can find empirical evidence that those statistics don't apply to that slice of the population, then there's absolutely no problem with what she said. She didn't say "15 of the men in this class are rapists." Law students aren't learning to be statisticians, epidemiologists, or policy wonks. Emotionally moving pe…

The odds that a group of 100 law students would perfectly represent the overall population are astronomical. You cannot extend population-level averages to a group of people without first proving that group is representative of the population.

Perhaps everyone in the room knew that. Perhaps it was even said. Were you there?

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Parental testing should be mandatory at birth perhaps for these issues. Or at least if someone is going to go claim child support.

The father - and should be - is the one who raises the child. It is for this reason that (in the US) "father" of record is always the husband unless it is explicitly questioned and investigated. Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

Because he may be victim of a fraud? ie, the baby is someone elses?

Because the actual biological father may want a role in his childs life?

Because the state has a bit of interest in accuracy in its medical / birth certificate and other records?

Because many births are to single mothers and the absent father may have certain financial and other responsibilities for the child?

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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> This isn't something that I have to personally worry about if I'm by myself, but it's something that so many women do have to worry about all the time. I can't even imagine the burden that women must carry. Not just women, but children. I was aware that I could be sexually assaulted/harrassed and what to do about it by the time I was 5, and I started getting uncomfortable comments in person around age 11. I'm also…

There's a considerable asymmetry here between men and women. I'm really curious about sussing it out and understanding how it develops. At an early age, about 5 or so I was exposed to sex, with peers, male/female. Later I was raped through coercion by two older children at 10-ish, male/female. Additionally none of this was ever reported until adulthood. As a male I've repeatedly been put in positions that I could des…

> at an early age women are given the impression that sex is their single lever in a relationship or socially

I can't speak for all eras and populations, but I suspect that that anecdote is an outlier.

> I wonder if I'm an oddball

If I may be so bold, you seem emotionally detached from the incident. That itself might be a response to the trauma.

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The whole jury system in founded on ignorance. Both sides don't want anyone who was a cop, knows any cops, has studied the law, or was ever arrested. Often, people with any kind of higher education will be dismissed. Last time I went to jury duty they asked anyone who had ever been party to any legal matter to leave. It's pretty wild.

One of my philosophy professors was excluded from jury selection, and happened to run into the lawyer who excluded him shortly after in the bathroom, and asked why. The lawyer said it was because he wrote Philosophical Quarterly on his questionnaire, and that he routinely excludes people like my professor who are highly educated. Why? my professor asked. Because you don't listen to the lawyers or the judge, he was to…

It sounds like he's basically saying that jury should be pro forma, rather than actually mattering.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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One of my philosophy professors was excluded from jury selection, and happened to run into the lawyer who excluded him shortly after in the bathroom, and asked why. The lawyer said it was because he wrote Philosophical Quarterly on his questionnaire, and that he routinely excludes people like my professor who are highly educated. Why? my professor asked. Because you don't listen to the lawyers or the judge, he was to…

I see what they mean, but still doesn't seem good. I would assume "big brained" witness especially defendants are told by their lawyers to shut up for similar reasons, too.

Hans Reiser would almost certainly be free today if he hadn't overruled his lawyer and taken the stand in his own defence.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Parental testing should be mandatory at birth perhaps for these issues. Or at least if someone is going to go claim child support.

The father - and should be - is the one who raises the child. It is for this reason that (in the US) "father" of record is always the husband unless it is explicitly questioned and investigated. Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

On paternity attestation forms in the usa there is a clause saying the marriage/legal father is not the father of record if the mother was in another relationship 9-10 months ago.
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