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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by 1_player »

anaisbetts wrote: post #205
nafizh wrote: post #97

People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.

> Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way By blocking any 3rd party use of Twitter and making it impossible to write your own clients? It's more like he Killed the eco-system

True, but it's not like Twitter has suffered in popularity even without API access. We just have fewer cool bots, but the platform is full of bots already, and not of the interesting kind.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by abdel_nasser »

i remember jack on the JRE podcast having a debate with a right-wing journalist. he was put into the position of trying to deny that twitters moderation favors far-left narratives. its emblematic of the role of CEO because i have always imagined that the true challenge of being the CEO of a top company is to be stuck between honesty and the company. jack wanted to say that yes of course the moderation skews left because to do otherwise would threaten the solvency of the company. but to say it out loud would make it all redundant. a thousand people think that if only they ran twitter they would put an end to X. no you wouldnt. and i would guess that jack has gone through more than most of us could imagine.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by seanw444 »

tills13 wrote: post #235
dnautics wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel that way, but I aggressively moderated who I follow in a purge, and being selective about who I add as follows. It feels like it's easier to marie-kondo people I don't care for anymore in twitter since there's little-to-no-expectation that I know anyone on twitter, and for me, anyways, twitter is a much more pleasant experience than any other social network has been.

The only issue with this is you create your own echo chamber. imo it's why conservatives feel so emboldened, recently -- they have surrounded themselves with people who agree with them making their "movement" seem larger than it actually is.

This doesn't apply exclusively to conservatives. The echo chambering is definitely a bipartisan issue. This is obvious on almost any platform.

Edit: Submitted this on an out-of-date page, not realizing so many people would respond the same. Not being a copycat.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

ghostcluster wrote: post #166

MIT Technology Review interviewed the new CEO recently: > Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment , but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation. The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed . One of the changes tod…

I don't think that's what he's saying at all.

He's only acknowledging that they're already algorithmically guiding the conversation and shaping public opinion. The algorithms are just bad: there are tons of feedback loops, too much emphasis on amplifying the already-popular and virtually no effort to de-emphasize the trash, and so you end up with a dumpster-fire / cacophony that Twitter is today.

Hacker News discussions are great because they're so well-moderated. It's not hard to imagine Twitter doing a better job of algorithmically demoting some of the obvious rage-bait, fake news, straight-up hate speech, etc.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by syshum »

kevingadd wrote: post #283
syshum wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem here is that "toxic" is subjective, what I find toxic and disagreeable may not be the same thing you find toxic and disagreeable. Take for example hot button issue of Gun ownership, I believe it an essential right and extension of self defense, others view any talk about guns as toxic that should be banned. Who's worldview should win? Mine, your's, Twitters? IMO platforms like twitter should not be making…

Who's banning discussion of guns? I can't think of a single service that does

Youtube for one has banned a lot of discussions around guns, and gun channels. There is a very limited number of things they allow and gun channels are walking on egg shells. The Rittenhouse trial cause alot of banns, strikes, and etc as well. Including one of the most popular law channel's getting taken down for a time.

That is one example, I can instead highlight any number of other topics like abortion, pronouns, gender, sexuality, any of the other "culture war" topics.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ARandomerDude »

tills13 wrote: post #235
dnautics wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel that way, but I aggressively moderated who I follow in a purge, and being selective about who I add as follows. It feels like it's easier to marie-kondo people I don't care for anymore in twitter since there's little-to-no-expectation that I know anyone on twitter, and for me, anyways, twitter is a much more pleasant experience than any other social network has been.

The only issue with this is you create your own echo chamber. imo it's why conservatives feel so emboldened, recently -- they have surrounded themselves with people who agree with them making their "movement" seem larger than it actually is.

Yeah! The only people who should feel emboldened are the ones who have the courage to agree with me!

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by 1_player »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #176
tristor wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily, but the character limit necessarily limits the amount of seriousness and quality within content on Twitter. It's very format necessitates that Twitter is full of vapid and inane content, and driven by pithy outrage inducement.

Or you could say that the limit forces you to be concise, precise, and vivid. Many of the world's most admired poems would fit in one Tweet.

Many of the harshest insults also fit in one Tweet.

Unless you're Shakespeare or a master of your language of similar stature, it's very hard to convey a deep and nuanced thought with so few characters. People write books because the more complex the idea, the more words it requires to fully explain.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by LegitShady »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #259

It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.

Long ago I made a reddit account with the first suggested name after the one I asked for was 'taken', disabled following all the subreddits, and then selectively added subreddits specific to my hobbies.

I don't see anything that normally hits the front page, everything I do see is somewhat relevant to me, and it basically deletes all politics from what is presented.

By far the best reddit experience possible, I think.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by ARandomerDude »

cblconfederate wrote: post #278
danschumann wrote: post #219

Twitter made me feel: some combination of violated, indignant, numb, inferior, empty, powerless, disappointed, embarassed, furious, annoyed, and infuriated.

Made you, you mean like, forced you? In any case you can't voluntarily join an emotional rollecoaster and then complain that it's moving too fast

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