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Post by spurgu »

mynameisash wrote: post #264
thepasswordis wrote: post #167

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I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

I quit FB for a bit over a year then came back because I missed connecting with people. I was quickly shocked by what I was actually 'missing'. The thing that jumped out at me was a former elementary/high school classmate who was literally arguing for vehicular manslaughter (murder?) -- that protesters should be run over at high-speeds for blocking the freeway[0]. Now, that's one post from one person. Yes, it's an ou…

The obvious question to me here is why you're "friends" with people like that? One of you sent the friend request in the first place and the other accepted. If/when it turns up you made a mistake with either step it's easy to undo it. As you said it's mostly outliers. Most people don't post/comment at all and the ones who do you can easily regulate (unfriend, or create a custom list (either black- or whitelist) if you need to stay "friends" for whatever reason).

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Post by canada_dry »

grzracz wrote: post #5

Can't wait for the post mortem technical post

I've seen a couple predominant tin-foil-hat theories are making the rounds:

  - a disgruntled NOC engineer   
  - the company is scrubbing any/all data related to the leak that 60 Minutes reported
It seems pretty astonishing that all BGP routing just vanished.

I'm guessing the only way we'll find out is if an insider spills the beans.

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Post by JCharante »

prawn wrote: post #207
thepasswordis wrote: post #167

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I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

I wonder how much this is country-specific. I always see Americans decry the content on Twitter. I'm in Australia and follow mostly Australians. I'm sure there is outrage somewhere, but I don't see much in my feed.

My feed is half Americans (since I primarily live in the US) and half from a SEA country / expat friends from all over the world.

I don't get where people see this outrage content. Mine is just like cookie recipes and I'm in tons of groups with hundreds of "friends".

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Post by stereoradonc »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
fleddr wrote: post #103

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It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

Thats odd. My experience is same on Twitter AND Facebook. Politics and angry screaming.

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Post by [deleted] »

spike021 wrote: post #100
boplicity wrote: post #22

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

I think people could really work on self-curating/self-filtering content to make sure it's mostly what they want to see on social media. I've made nearly a dozen friends in Japan who I've now met there on two separate trips purely through a shared interest by connecting on Instagram. I rarely see content that I don't expect or care to see.

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Post by rattray »

asciimov wrote: post #117
spike021 wrote: post #100

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I think people could really work on self-curating/self-filtering content to make sure it's mostly what they want to see on social media. I've made nearly a dozen friends in Japan who I've now met there on two separate trips purely through a shared interest by connecting on Instagram. I rarely see content that I don't expect or care to see.

The problem for me, and many others, is we are friends with people on the complete opposite political spectrum. I don't have the granularity to block their political posts while still being able to see their regular posts.

You do!

On a post you don't like, click the triple dots in the top right corner, then "Hide post" (subtitle: "See fewer posts like this").

Do this enough and you may be able to avoid politics on fb.

IME merely avoiding any interaction (including reading) of political posts is enough to gradually hide them from your timeline (I don't see any).

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Post by thepasswordis »

sfblah wrote: post #268
thepasswordis wrote: post #167

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I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

Just out of curiosity, in that taxonomy how would you characterize Reddit?

I try to avoid reddit.com/r/all and have my subreddits pared down to dogs, mechanical keyboards, tesla stuff, cryptocurrency, sailing, and locally-relevant things (city subs for the places I have homes).

I'd say facebook is: older people sharing stuff about their life. Benign posts about traveling, maybe some light complaining about the neighborhood where they live getting too expensive, complaining about their job or sports or something like that etc.

Twitter is: younger people who are angry at the world and looking for a scapegoat. Everything is "here's why $outgroup is the core of all the problems in the world in 240 characters or less". Absolutely psychologically abusive garbage.

Reddit is like twitter, but more of an impotent rage. Lots of corporate pop culture references, but still with a strong dose of "here's why $outgroup is so bad!"

Looking at some of the parenting subs I'm on, some of the top posts are prompts for people to explain how terrible things in the world are.

Just really really toxic, awful things.

If I had to guess why: facebook is relatively private. The only things I see are either from people choose to follow explicitly, or from a tier-2 follow like a group (which I can filter if the group starts veering into toxicity).

Twitter is explicitly public. You see and interact with everything from everybody. There seems to be a strong ephasis on sharing other things from people I don't follow.

Reddit is the worst. Completely public, I never followed any of these people. Ignoring/blocking individuals would have almost no effect.

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Post by lmm »

enkid wrote: post #127
wly_cdgr wrote: post #92

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Facebook is very far from perfect, but it brings a lot of good to the world as well. I met my partner of almost five years thanks to Facebook's friend recommendation algorithms. I had never met them outside of Facebook and we didn't have any friends in common outside Facebook either. In fact, when we met, we lived on opposite coasts. I will always be grateful to Zuck & Co. for that, and for the hundreds of other frie…

I think the question is, how do you keep the good and get rid of the bad? I think there's a lot of great things that social media has done to connect people, but all too often it's only a shallow or artificial connection. I think the other problem is that social media will make you find people "like" you. Humans have always sought that out, but there was always some variance that allowed us to remember that others un…

I always think of one scene in Cool Runnings: a gold medal is a wonderful thing, and if you're not enough without it, there's no way you'll be enough with it.

Facebook gives you what you want, and it's up to you what you make that.

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Post by seoulmetro »

OJFord wrote: post #278
seoulmetro wrote: post #261

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There's a "day" or "month" for everything these days. It's just how globalisation blends with capitalism. People are more herd like than ever before.

It's just marketing, I don't see what globalisation particularly has to do with it. Capitalism perhaps, but only to the (debatable) extent that it's responsible for marketing.

You don't see what being connected as a whole (world) has to do with creating social calendar dates? Really?

These things are figments of marketing imagination. They spread through people, not TV or ads. Albeit they start that way. You can throw $$$ at making the 1st of September world Tie day, but it's up to the people to make it stick. Which is becoming increasingly easy as we become a whole connected people.

Sales (lower priced periods) are marketing. "National ___ day" is way more than that.

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