Disappointed at display resolution. I'm forever waiting for a laptop with AMD CPU, no dedicated GPU, 4K built-in display, enough RAM, a few USB port and a Ethernet.
System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock
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It doesn’t really matter, if the diagonal is roughly the same and you use 200% scaling. The corresponding 16:10 or 3:2 would still be preferable (or even 4:3, which was once the standard aspect ratio for laptops). For a given notebook width, you basically want as much height as possible. For desktop monitors, it can be more of a personal preference regarding FOV and window layout. For me personally, I think a ~30" 16…
I math'd this out recently and decided that ~16:9 actually would be the ideal ratio for me.. On a ~42" 8k monitor, using 2x scaling. I'm optimizing mainly for viewing three documents side by side here. Having your primary document (e.g. text editor or IDE) centered means you're not constantly turning your head one way or another. And it has the added benefit of working well for media (compared to 3 monitors in vertic…
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Is this different from >?
I am also _very_ picky about my screens.
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#293Does anyone know how much power this draws when idle? With a 49WH battery and assuming 5W idle (which is what you can get the 4k series ryzen mobile down to on windows on a good day), that's just under 10 hours. Anyone have any tighter numbers? I would seriously consider buying this if I could actually expect 10 hours battery pretty consistently.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
15.6″ 1366×768: 100ppi. It could be improved by 90% scaling, but that doesn’t tend to work quite so well. Basically everyone uses it at 1×. 15.6″ 1920×1080 (1080p): 141ppi. Generally comfortable at 1–1.25×, most will use at 1×. 15.6″ 2560×1440 (1440p): 188ppi. Generally comfortable at 1.33–1.75×, most will use at 1.5×. Definitely uncomfortable at both 1× and 2×. If you don’t like fractional scaling, you don’t want 14…
Hmm, I guess I didn't think about the 15.6 inch size in laptops. I have a 14 inch laptop so I was thinking in terms of that size. 1080p on my laptop needs 1.2 — 1.3 scaling to look "normal". I know people dismiss this as personal taste but 1) IINM, Windows defaults to 125% automatically on such a display and 2) I have a hard time reading text without scaling my 14 inch 1080p display. Sure, people, resort to scaling j…
14″ is an uncomfortable size for integral scaling: past 1366×768 (112ppi), all of the popular sizes call for fractional scaling: in my rough guide of 110–140ppi, that’s about 110–140% for 1080p (so the 125% you cited is good), about 150–190% for 1440p, and about 225–285% for 4K.
(13.3″ works better: 100% for 1366×768, 120–150% for 1080p so no integer there, 160–200% for 1440p, 240–300% for 4K.)
Fractional scaling in Sway doesn’t degrade quality in any way in Wayland windows: it leaves the scaling to the app to execute, and I haven’t come across a single app getting it wrong. Text will be rendered perfectly. Pixel-precise stuff can be a tad funny, e.g. a 1px border on an element in Firefox will be rendered as one or two device pixels in most contexts.
But then there’s anything still using X11: without the high-DPI patches, XWayland renders at 1× and scales it up so that it’ll look bad for any scale higher than one, whether fractional or integral. With the patches, you get to decide what to do.
On my 1440p 15.6″ display, I have scale 1.5 and xwayland scale 3, which normally works very well, but I do have to drop it to 1 occasionally for some things due to apps that don’t do scaling and the fact that the patches are still imperfect and you can actually soft-lock apps when they try to open certain windows (mostly popups, including menus) until you drop the scale.
Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock
#295This is an huge deal : the 5700U is faster than the Mac M1 at the same wattage https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH...
If you have embarrassingly parallel loads, sure. But: CPU Single Thread Rating Apple M1 - 3,778 AMD 5700U - 2,636 suggests that "is faster" is going to depend on your perspective. Most loads I care about are single threaded. The 5700U is 8% faster on a synthetic multi-core benchmark vs. 30% slower on a single core benchmark. I know which CPU I'd choose if I had a choice.
Woah. Nice quote about "CPU Single Thread Rating". Can you share a source?
I can understand why there is this real push to reverse engineer the M1 platform to get Linux running on it! The efficiency per watt is amazing.
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#296What's up with these designs? Their laptops look like they are a few years behind, compared to MacBooks/XPS/Surface/etc.
1080p on 15" is quite criminal, do they think people look at this at 2 meter distance or something?
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#297I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.
i deeply hate being without a numpad. I understand it's duplicated space, but typing numbers on a numpad is just a million times faster than going above the alphabet keys.
actually i use the numpad for arrows (and virtually dont need a mouse in a decent IDE, once I reprogram the shortcuts). I don't recall having a numpad lacking keyboard and a laptop in the last 15y+.
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No, the conclusion is that more buttons are always better. You can always customize a keyboard with minimal effort, unless you're on a really bad operating system, like any of the proprietary ones.
> No, the conclusion is that more buttons are always better. Not really. There was a time where laptops, especially 15", had front speakers. If the choice is that or numpad, I pick front speakers. Its a bummer smartphones don't have them anymore these days. More keys might seem like a no-brainer, but its always also less is more and keys you don't use are useless keys. As power user, it seems (re)binding of keys is i…
My laptop has front speakers & a number pad. Keys you don't use need to be rebound until you use them.
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i deeply hate being without a numpad. I understand it's duplicated space, but typing numbers on a numpad is just a million times faster than going above the alphabet keys.
If you work in a bank, entering deposits and withdrawals all day. Or a shop that doesn't have a barcode reader. Or if you're an accountant. I suppose you could also argue for a special programmer's pad too. I mean, I play the odd FPS and I'm still happy with WASD so I'm definitely not gonna understand.
...or if you are use it for navigation, along with enter. I never use the numlock but I do use the numpad.
Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock
#300Uhh I understand that good Linux support is valuable, but the price premium for that is just too high. For the base variant(5500u, 8gb, 240gb): Pangolin - 1200$ Lenovo Ideapad 3 15 - 430$[1] For a higher-end variant(5700u, 16gb, 500gb): Pangolin - 1542$ HP 15z - 640$[2] I admit these are the absolute cheapest ones I could find(using noteb.com), but even the more premium laptops like Thinkpads are way cheaper(and AFAI…
Good Linux support is rare. Name one other USA vendor besides System76 or Purism that is Linux-first.
Linux is at best a side project for Lenovo and Dell.