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Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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I will once again register my hope that this causes at least a significant portion of windows subscribers to consider non-proprietary alternatives. Linux distros are fundamentally more useful computer systems, open source communities have done dizzying amounts of work to produce mostly-working interop with windows-exclusive software, as well as numerous FOSS alternatives to popular products. I'm not going to lie and…

And even if you do happen to need Windows for the odd application every now and then, it generally runs just fine as a virtual machine guest under QEMU+KVM. Interestingly, for Windows 11 Microsoft even seems to have explicitly removed all these awkward hardware requirements when the system detects that it is running as a virtual machine guest [0], making such a setup (Windows as VM guest only) even more worthy of con…

It said that they won't check for VMs, but still follow the same minimum hardware requirements. I can't find any hypervisor supports DX12 without hardware acceleration. I wonder is DX12 really requirement.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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post #228

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> Linux distros are fundamentally more useful computer systems Last I checked I can’t play 1080p Netflix on them so I’d say the above is questionable for the average user. Big fan too but the year of the Linux desktop is still a way off

The average user won't notice the difference in a laptop screen unless told. What's more, they won't be using a laptop (let alone desktops) on the first place, they'll use a smart TV or TV stick. For whatever it's worth, they don't support it on Windows for most of the users who do watch it there, since you need to use Edge or the Windows Store App on a 7th gen Intel CPU on an HDCP 2.2 compliant setup, and I'm pretty…

You don't need HDCP 2.2 / specific CPU for 1080p but Edge is the only requirement.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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Perhaps, because win7 is known for being "the last good windows" with some privacy. It may or may not be true, but a lot of people are adamant about not using linux while also trying to maintain privacy, hence they use win7. I imagine such users would probably use a browser like firefox.

I remember when win2k was "the last good windows" and then windows xp after it. I $CURRENT-2 is always going to be considered "the last good windows".

Win2k WAS the last good Windows.

Dave Cutler was still in charge, and his attitude towards stamping out bugs is sorely lacking today.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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post #170

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Check how more complicated it is to install linux and your own compiled kernels with secure boot enabled and a tpm 2.0 chip.

I did a quick bing (hah, jk I used google) but didn't find anything other than having to install some tpm2 packages to use the module. Also, if tpm2.0 is as redundant as people are making it out to be, couldn't they just disable it in BIOS along with microsoft secureboot keys?

For BIOSes that allow such a thing, maybe... IIRC, at least for windows 8 on ARM, this possibility wasn't required or even desired: https://www.theverge.com/microsoft/2012/1/16/2710502/microso...

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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post #238

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Based on that article, every MacBook Air released since 2008 will receive a patch update and every MacBook Air released since 2015 will support OSX Monterey. Is that not reasonable?

I believe the patches are all community sourced. They tend to be well made but they're not something the average consumer would use. It's hit or miss as to whether they work with your particular model.

I think the patches are Apple’s security updates, not a community OS hackintosh thing

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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You misunderstood me: are we assuming that the Microsoft list of supported processors represents all the CPUs that can run Windows 11, rather than the list that Microsoft supports (meaning they promise it works, promise it will continue to work) These at least to me seem like completely different things (and have been in the past). As an example: Windows 10 is not officially supported on Sandy Bridge CPUs like the i7…

This looks like a list of processors they *approve for OEMs* that build *new* computers with Windows pre-installed. Everyone is acting completely ridiculously thinking that there will be actual cpuid checks.

They are literally doing cpuid checks.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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post #228

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> Linux distros are fundamentally more useful computer systems Last I checked I can’t play 1080p Netflix on them so I’d say the above is questionable for the average user. Big fan too but the year of the Linux desktop is still a way off

Are you serious? My debian and ubuntu computers can play 4k streaming without problems! (youtube, twitch, etc). I don't see a reason why linux can't play 4K. Could you please elaborate?

You can't with netflix content because of DRM.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.

For an example of just how many people don't care about EOL'd operating systems: Microsoft's mainstream support for Windows 7 ended in January 2015 (and paid "Extended Security Updates" service ended in January 2020) and yet 21% of Firefox users are still running Windows 7: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware#goto-os-and-arch...

Only 1.97% of steam users use windows 7, so I don't think we can assume either demographic is a fair representation of all users

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw...

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