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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by clajiness »

tored wrote: post #261
dantondwa wrote: post #223

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I recently discovered, while helping a family member, that to unlock Windows from S mode you now need a Microsoft account. This is really crazy: I need a stupid Microsoft account to use my PC. Without mentioning that the only way to create a local user is to setup windows without connecting it to the internet. And without mentioning the amount of nagging, ads and spam that Windows users have to withstand. Like, the o…

Month ago I installed Windows 10 and created a local account while connected to the internet, if I remember correctly it was hidden by 2 or 3 steps. Professional version.

Same. No need for the Microsoft account, although it is tricky to find.

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Post by whoopdedo »

0-_-0 wrote: post #58
TonyTrapp wrote: post #25

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You know, I wouldn't even mind about telemetry in the calculator if that would have told them that I activate Programmer Mode a whole lot through the Alt+3 shortcut, and that my muscle memory of 20 years was completely ruined by them moving the Programmer Mode to Alt+4 for GUI consistency (after they added a new Graphing Mode that they wanted to stick right next to the Scientific Mode).

Oh, there is a graph mode? Nevermind, I just crashed it with "sin(x)sin(y)<0"

Microsoft doing in 2021, what Apple did in 1999.

(Microsoft PowerToys for XP had a graphing calculator but it doesn't support inequalities.)

I coincidentally had to fire up Sheepshaver recently so I've got it on hand. I put that inequality in the MacOS 8 Graphing Calculator and it gave me a nice looking checkerboard. Except I had to write it as "sin(x)sin(y)sin(y))<0", which is pretty itself.

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Post by sosborn »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #190
jaywalk wrote: post #77

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Press the Windows key and then start typing what you're looking for.

I'm weary of suggesting that to those I provide tech support for anymore. For me, on my current PC, typing up to "Visu" leads to "Visual Studio 2019", but adding one more character to "Visua" leads to "Visual Studio Code", which is what I wanted in the first place most of the time. No clue what the heuristics here are, but it's not predictable to me. More troubling: "Che" leads to Microsoft's "Check for Updates", whi…

Not to diminish your complaint, but try typing "Code". Works for me.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by bsd44 »

prometheus76 wrote: post #267
bsd44 wrote: post #241

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You should look into an alternative then. Linux is quite beginner friendly these days and with Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching. If not then MacOS is the way to go. If you really want to go "back" then you should have a look at ReactOS which is a sort of an open-source Windows clone. I can't comment on recent Windows-related event as XP was the…

Yeah until an update to the graphics driver, followed by a reboot, takes you to a black screen and nothing happens. So you use another computer to look online and there are five different solutions for five slightly different versions of different linux distributions, but none of them are the version you have and none of them work for your version. This all happened six months ago, which is the most recent attempt at…

I've been using various Linux and BSD flavours as my main desktop OS and also at work for over 15 years now and never had any major issue such as the one you describe. So now what are we going to do? How do we decide who is right and who is wrong? I don't understand these types of comments, if an alternative doesn't work for you then you keep using what you were in the first place. There's no problem here. What exactly are you suggesting, that you experienced a problem so it won't work for anyone else?

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Post by thrower123 »

Scramblejams wrote: post #270
thrower123 wrote: post #126

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It's absurd how much better LTSC is than publicly available versions of Win 10. If you have enterprise licensing or MSDN subscriptions or Partner connections, the only reason not to run it is if you really, really need WSL. Even then, I think you can get it enabled if you really need to.

Another reason not to run it is if any of the games you play require > 1809.

What would an example of that be?

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Post by dstaley »

tyingq wrote: post #11
rightbyte wrote: post #3

"a more modern look and a redesigned Start menu" Oh please no. Hopefully the new OS will lead to less updates for Windows 10 being force pushed to my computer.

It's not clear where the reporter got the "redesigned start menu" idea from. Reads like it's just their personal guess. I'm also not clear on why the Win10 start menu got so much hate. I delete all the tiles and it then seems not much different than prior start menus.

They likely were aware of this leak [1], but didn't want to name it specifically (or had their own sources).

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/22535123/microsoft-window...

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Post by tomc1985 »

hutzlibu wrote: post #269
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

For those who are not aware of its existence, there are some projects, that try to keep up with a "debloater", meaning they maintain a script, to remove as much of that crap as possible. First thing I do on a new windows computer: https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater It is not perfect, some stuff remains as Microsoft regulary "improves" their bloatware setup. But it makes windows so much more bearable.

There's also Blackbird

https://www.getblackbird.net/

Been using this since release

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Post by tomc1985 »

partiallypro wrote: post #103
kathoum wrote: post #66

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This. I switched from 7 to 10 when it was offered. I stayed with 10 for about one year, and I liked it thanks to all the fixes and improvements and despite the occasional quirk. But after one year, I realized my computer didn't feel like it was mine anymore. I jumped to linux and never went back.

Ubuntu started collecting telemetry in 2018, I don't see how it's invasive at all.

Ubuntu is not all of Linux

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Post by Avery3R »

lazypenguin wrote: post #203
Jedd wrote: post #68

It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release). Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.

It's interesting that the responses you got were all dev related improvements (better line endings, WSL, hyper-v etc.) but I thought I'd try to take a stab at this from a non-power user's perspective: - Better bluetooth integration (N/A in XP? Unreliable in Win7?) - Snipping tool (Don't remember if in XP, definitely part of win7) - Improved automatic driver detection (Drivers were pretty rough in XP, okay in win7 but…

> outlook always cost money

outlook express was free on xp

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

tomxor wrote: post #233
mattowen_uk wrote: post #80

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Is there RemoteApp ability in any of the linux RDP clients? If so, there's the option of running Windows in a VM on your Linux machine, and having seamless Windows apps on your Linux desktop. It's a bit like what MS are going to offer with their WSL, but in reverse. I've never tried it, but it might work, and give people the best of both worlds.

WSL is not really virtualised, it's a linux kernel translation layer for linux userland (which is why it's not actually letting you use linux at all, it's allowing you to run GNU and some linux programs). What I mean is the reverse, running win programs on Linux without virtualisation, like WINE, but official win libs. Imagine MS porting the _official_ windows libs to linux and FOSSing them so we don't have to play W…

What you're saying about WSL was true of WSL 1, but WSL 2 is a virtualized Linux kernel.
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