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Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by hajile »

jclardy wrote: post #246
Hamuko wrote: post #234

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How much faster? I want to upgrade my 4K because of the performance.

To be honest I don't think it will really be that noticeable. It will be faster, but only slightly. The original 4k had an A10X, the new one has an A12. The A10X was the A10 with beefed up GPU, so on that front they are probably pretty close. The A12 will probably win out on general processing tasks.

I thought the "Bionic" referred only to the a12x or a12z variants. It makes sense as a place to put their unused stock left over from their old ipad lineup and as a way to get those "console" graphics.

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Post by jshier »

tshaddox wrote: post #280
tptacek wrote: post #200

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The iOS TV remote makes it easier for people to share control of the TV, not harder.

How can I give guests control of my TV via their phones? As far as I know, that can’t be done automatically with iPhones, let alone people who don’t have iPhones.

They launch the Remote app on their phone, select the TV from the local network (if you don't banish them to a guest network), and pair with the code, same as you adding your phone.

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Post by stouset »

ihattendorf wrote: post #253
kmonsen wrote: post #243

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that is not a user feature

Performance is a feature

Not for a device that rarely operates even close to its performance constraints. If you're using it for games? Sure, but I think that's still a very... let's call it "niche" market for the Apple TV. For people just using it to watch television and movies? Unnoticeable.

It'll likely be more power efficient but I'm not sure that's going to be very noticeable.

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Post by stouset »

crazygringo wrote: post #88
stouset wrote: post #79

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This gives you direction but not distance.

In my testing with spatial audio, the effect doesn't seem to change with distance, so I think direction is all it relies on. I could be wrong though, it might be doing something subtle. But even if it were, it would still be fine to fall back to a default distance of 2m or something.

Fair enough!

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Post by minhazm »

ziml77 wrote: post #186
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I recently moved my Apple TV to another room (for Fitness+ use) so we started relying upon a Chromecast with Google TV. What a downgrade. It made me remember how horrid AV components often were, where multi-second delays, slow loading, horrid transitions, etc, were just normal. The Chromecast Google TV device has a 4 core, 1.9Ghz device, yet it seems extremely underpowered. Having a beefy processor in an AV device is…

The Nvidia Shield basically uses the same SoC as the Nintendo Switch. Yet somehow even though the chip is powerful enough to run 3D games, Android TV can't manage smooth 2D animations on it. As I said in another comment I switched to using the apps on my LG TV. That sluggishness was a huge reason why.

It's possible it's not powerful enough for a 4K tv if that's what you have. The Switch does 720p, or 1080p when docked. 4X the resolution is a big difference.

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Post by matwood »

ashtonbaker wrote: post #126
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I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

It's a better experience for sure, but loading the app takes time, and it often (for me) takes a couple tries to pair with your apple tv. Also, you can't adjust the tv volume.

If you have CEC or ARC setup, then you can adjust the volume by tapping on the buttons on the Lock Screen or using the iPhone volume buttons when the remote open.

I'm not sure what remote your are using, but the one built into the iPhones pull down menu is instant for me.

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Post by ixfo »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

The big problem I had with the remote was elderly users. Picking up an object should not have side-effects.

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Post by mikestew »

sjs382 wrote: post #141
mbesto wrote: post #133

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I'm a decently savvy iPhone user and the traditional remote is absolute garbage. Wonder if you can just buy the remote independently and use on old hardware?

You can. $59. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote

Or for half that one can avoid rewarding Apple for making a remote that reminds you how much Apple hates you:

https://function101.com/pages/button-remote-for-apple-tv-hom...

It does lack the Apple TV button, though. Which, meh, long press Menu and hit the Apple TV icon from the home screen. Before today's announcement, that was made up for by the fact that the old Apple remote inexplicably lacked a mute button, which the button remote has. It makes me wonder how stuff like the old remote gets out the door sometimes.

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Post by coryking »

softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

That touch remote truly is the worst thing apple has made in a while (the round hockey puck mouse being the absolute worst).

In addition to all your points... it just isn't that durable. All our normal TV remotes made it through our daughters "stick everything in her mouth" phase completely unscathed. Both our "touch" remotes now constantly act weird and flakey. I refuse to spend money to replace them because they are so awful.

I'm very glad to see that these remotes are going away. Like you, that pile of shit remote is a deal breaker for any future AppleTV purchase.

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Post by coryking »

tptacek wrote: post #122
softwaredoug wrote: post #105

I'm happy that they ditched the old, confusing 'touch' Siri remote for a traditional four button (up/down/left/right) one. The old Siri remote was pretty frustrating. I know some people love it, but there's so many ways it didn't. work well: 1. You breath on the thing, and it does something. It's extremely sensitive 2. It's really hard to fast fwd/rewind just a little bit. Its good at scrubbing through a whole movie,…

I'm always a little surprised when people talk about the Apple TV remote, since I always just use my phone as the remote, and assume that everyone else would too; you always have your phone and often don't have the remote on-hand.

> since I always just use my phone as the remote

Our family does this only because the actual remote is such a pile of crap.

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