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Re: Apple TV 4K Gets A12 Bionic

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Post by theshrike79 »

ksec wrote: post #84
ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

>What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point. Yes. I am trying to Find out if the new Remote has the AirTag feature built in. But since they didn't announce it I am guessing not. Sigh. I thought it was the best use case for AirTag or Precision Location. Edit: Search through the spec and nothing mentioned. God Damn it WH…

> And Apple courting current TV Station to put out an App for their current livestream content. Essentially replacing Over the Air Broadcast with Broadcast via IP.

This is already a reality in Finland.

I haven't owned an antenna cable for over 5 years. All my TV comes directly through the internet from each channel's own app. Most provide live TV or at least make digital releases available at the same time as the live broadcast. (Not that I watch "live" TV anymore, since I don't do sports - which IMO are the only thing where being live actually matters)

My LG TV is just a large monitor for me. The only use it gets is when I need to adjust volume for my consoles or turn the TV on/off. With the new ATV remote it'll be relegated to a fancy console volume controller =)

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Post by kmonsen »

mlindner wrote: post #161
sjs382 wrote: post #141

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You can. $59. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote

Awesome. Definitely getting it. My current Apple TV 4K is fine, but the remote is garbage.

yeah, not really sure why I would update the apple tv 4k

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Post by kmonsen »

saagarjha wrote: post #235
varenc wrote: post #210

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I diff'd the technical specs for the old and new ATV 4K! https://gist.github.com/varenc/88f3253764fa7782602de2a812af4... There are more wording tweaks than actual capability differences. The real changes boil down to: - New Siri Remote - Support for 4K HDR content at 60fps vs 30fps - HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0 - 802.11ax Wi‑Fi 6 vs 802.11ac

There's also an A12 Bionic.

that is not a user feature

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Post by scoopertrooper »

varenc wrote: post #210
ping_pong wrote: post #22

As a current AppleTV 4K owner, I have no idea how any of this is different from the previous version. I don't any any discernible difference. I already have HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc. What I really want is the ability to make my remote control beep so I can find it. That's literally the only feature that I want at this point.

I diff'd the technical specs for the old and new ATV 4K! https://gist.github.com/varenc/88f3253764fa7782602de2a812af4... There are more wording tweaks than actual capability differences. The real changes boil down to: - New Siri Remote - Support for 4K HDR content at 60fps vs 30fps - HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0 - 802.11ax Wi‑Fi 6 vs 802.11ac

The step up to the A12 will be a pretty major boon for Apple Arcade. It'd have been nice to see a 'pro' option for an A12X or greater though.

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Post by tshaddox »

corysama wrote: post #205
tshaddox wrote: post #80

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Wireless Xbox controllers work fine with Apple TV. The bigger problem is that the games simply are not designed with a TV and console controller in mind. Even the Apple Arcade titles, which are generally very polished on iPhone and iPad, are pretty janky with a controller, and nearly unusable with the Apple TV Siri Remote (even though they claim to be designed for these input devices). But yes, it's very frustrating…

This is the classic chicken-egg problem inherent in starting up a new game platform. Why invest in your game's controller experience and compromise the touch experience when billions of players have touch and a negligible amount have controllers? The only way to bootstrap the ecosystem is to prime the pump with large investments from the platform holder. Pay devs directly to add support. Give hardware to users way be…

Yep, I don’t fault the game devs at all! I would expect Apple to use the Arcade program (plus their infinite cash) to incentivize devs to really polish the Apple TV experience.

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Post by jclardy »

Hamuko wrote: post #234
hajile wrote: post #59

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Apple has really started investing in and pushing for their arcade subscription. The A12 Bionic should be a lot faster which is a major point if you want to use those features.

How much faster? I want to upgrade my 4K because of the performance.

To be honest I don't think it will really be that noticeable. It will be faster, but only slightly. The original 4k had an A10X, the new one has an A12. The A10X was the A10 with beefed up GPU, so on that front they are probably pretty close. The A12 will probably win out on general processing tasks.

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Post by tonoto »

harikb wrote: post #215
tonoto wrote: post #158

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I recently came over to "Apple"-world after years of listening to all the fanatics/ambassadeurs who proclaims "it just works". I've been using an Apple AIO computer (model Imac 5k) for a couple of years as a web browser, but recently I started the switch from Android eco system and first I bought the "pro" model of their wireless headset just to find out that they worked pretty decently (albeit, overly expensive) as…

I agree there is lot to improve. My issues have been mostly with having the Airpod Pro sit in the case for 1-day+ and then take and find out it hasn't charge one of the pods. Case had charged, but it didn't somehow charge the pod. However my experience with pairing/connect/disconnect has been better than any other brand I have tried. Taking it from the case to trigger the connect has been absolutely ground breaking.…

Strange enough, I've had differences in charge level for both "pods" - like 10% difference if I remember correctly, at one or two times. But never that it became an issue for me leaving one pod without power. I'm impressed with the battery times, due to them always beeing charged by the case. That is a neat functionality that works good for me. I just wished that the connect was a seamless experience for me too.

About size, big plus for portability. A tiny minus for the fitting. I would absolutely not trust them during mobility such as running or biking. In that sense my wireless sleep "headphones" from Bose are way better fit with a "wing"/spring on the rear side to secure them.

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Post by jclardy »

Moeancurly wrote: post #56
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #24

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Taking a random guess, I think it’s because the location of the AppleTV doesn’t help identify the location of the actual screen. There would need to be some awkward configuration step (redone every time the AppleTV or screen moves) that Apple just wouldn’t ask its customers to do.

I wonder if a U1 UWB chip be precise enough to detect if if the ATV has moved. Using 1 HomePod mini as a reference point, and more precision with more HomePods. The location of the screen could be learned with some "Apple Magic," i.e. an AR setup process using an iPhone

All they need is a "look at your TV" step. User looks at TV, ATV saves AirPod gyro orientation and you are done. The iPhone/iPad need their orientation because the screen can move at any point...TV's usually don't.

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Post by crazydoggers »

antiterra wrote: post #106
crazydoggers wrote: post #14

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I’m guessing because the vast majority of the market with a 4K Apple TV is not watching in stereo, but in surround with something like Dolby Atmos. Edit: For those unfamiliar, spatial audio is a post processing effect that attempts to simulate surround, whereas most home theaters are going to be watching material that has discreet location and channel data, meaning a much more realistic surround stage.

Even 7.1 speakers simulate input when it comes to positional surround like Dolby Atmos, albeit without the need to do HRTF wizardry/gimmicks. Plus, the distinguishing feature of the Apple spatial audio implementation is that it has head tracking so that locations correspond to the listening position even when you turn your head. (I think there are Audeze headsets that can do a version of this with PC.)

My speakers accomplish the same feat by being separated from my head :)

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Post by fotta »

SigmundA wrote: post #155
markphip wrote: post #151

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I use my phone often too, but you cannot control the volume from your phone so you need another remote too. My Samsung TV remote works pretty well as the Apple TV remote though too. The DirecTV remote control was also programmable and worked OK. They both just lack the Home button but you can use the Back button enough times to do without it.

My phone controls the volume, when the remote app is up on the phone the volume buttons on the phone actually change my receivers volume through HDMI from the Apple tv.

This depends on HDMI-CEC and volume control support amongst manufacturers is varying. My fancy LG OLED doesn't support volume control over CEC (but it has HomeKit support which works).
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