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Do you really not know any young people who have been permanently damaged by COVID? I know multiple people in their 20s and 30s that spent weeks in the ER and will never be the same. I'm always surprised to find people who think the lockdown is excessive. COVID is absolutely no joke even if you're young, it's not the flu. Not even close, you don't want it.
I know zero people that have been permanently damaged by COVID. I don't think my social circle is all that small, either.
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IMO Summer is a bit optimistic to be calling anything "normal," but I broadly agree we're near the end. Maybe by Fall or Winter we can hang out in bars again without feeling like we're killing somebody. In either case, now is not the time to give up. A few more months and we'll start seeing things ease up, I think. But we won't get there if we make things worse now. It sucks. Stay strong. Do what you can.
> But we won't get there if we make things worse now. I have seen this claimed a lot, but is it really true? In some countries the authorities ended restrictions (or ostensibly maintained restrictions but stopped enforcement of them) because the population simply wasn't observing them. In those cases just "giving up" really worked in terms of the majority of people being able to get back to normal socializing.
The studies that have been done have shown that whatever benefits that lockdowns may have had were far outweighed by the toll they've taken on mental health and the economy. Short of literally locking everyone in their houses for 2-3 weeks (including essential workers) lockdowns just feel like they're doing something.
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But those mostly killed people still the prime of their lives, while COVID mostly (not entirely, but mostly) advances the Grim Reaper for the old and sick who likely only had a few years anyway. If we measured the toll in disability-adjusted life years instead, the comparison would be quite different. Cynical thought: COVID lockdowns are extreme largely because unlike most public health problems it affects the rich t…
More to the point, I think these statement show a lack of empathy on the part of the person making them. 'at least they're old' This has wiped out FAMILES. 2.4M worldwide and nearly 500k in the US. And it flies past people due to fatigue and habituation.
2.4M people is 0.03% of the global population. Heart disease alone kills 0.23% of the global population per year.
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#294In my area there are no lockdowns and businesses are thriving. Very thankful to be where I’m at.
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We did flatten the curve. You just don't get to see the alternate reality where we didn't.
I'm not questioning the flattening the curve part. I'm saying the 2 weeks part was gaslighting. What they should have said is "one year or greater to flatten the curve." That would have been honest
What the parent comment is trying to say is that we did accomplish the goal of those two weeks. The curve was flattened. Your perspective is a result of not living in the universe were it was a lot worse. This isn't the best time line, but it is one of the better ones.
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#296That's our local bar in Monterrey, Mexico [1]! We received some paper flyers with a QR when we had our first lockdown, it's nice seeing it pop up in HN. If anyone's wondering, the bar is still open and operating on a very limited capacity, which has made it much nicer in my opinion. Also, the usual jazz quartet has been replaced with a trio with much younger musicians, since understandably the older musicians don't w…
When you see the owner, please tell they to add their address including city and country somewhere. I was wondering where in the world they were located and I couldn't find it anywhere, not even in their FB page.
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Even the term: lockdown Free societies don’t have lockdowns. Prisons do. One would think that the government would come up with a better term, if only out of self interest. But then perhaps that’s the point.
What happened last spring was more or less incarceration. We weren't free. We weren't allowed to leave our houses. The term "lockdown" works quite well.
You very clearly have zero clue what life is like while incarcerated. You should be embarrassed by this comment.
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Thank god the epidemiologists are not the ones making policy. Most state and local governments in the US have not shown a willingness to follow such a hardline approach, and we're already seeing reopenings as numbers drop, long before the vaccine has even had a major impact.
Pretty sure one of Biden’s main talking points of his election campaign was that America would start listening to the scientists more closely.
Nothing Biden has said or done has implied he wants to take a hardline approach to COVID restrictions, aside from briefly floating the idea of limited domestic travel. And he made no effort to tie the massive relief package to restrictive state polices. Beyond that, he has limited authority over state and local restrictions.
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#299I miss the bars a little (I wasn't too much for going out), but the current 6 pm curfew is rather annoying, how I can't do anything after work. Of course I adjusted my habits, going shopping or running during lunch breaks or the week end, but still
A 6pm curfew? In heavily urban parts of the U.S. and perhaps other parts of the world, people don't even get home from work by then, and the virus doesn't pay too much attention to what time it is either.
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Different countries, and different situations. Living in a big old house in the country with your family? Your life is probably basically the same as it always was. Potentially better, depending on the work situation. Okay, sure, you're not going on as many holidays, and depending on how strict the rules are where you are, dinner parties are off the cards. Living in a flat as a single person in the big exciting city?…
>Literally everything you do has been illegal or restricted in some form for almost a year now. I've more had the mindset that everything I normally do can put other people in danger and potentially kill them or someone close to them. Or leave them with lingering side effects from illness for who knows how long. But yeah, also kind of going crazy.
I feel better now that we have competent leadership enforcing rules and rushing to get us vaccines. It has made all the world a difference for my mental health knowing that others are now doing what I am doing and we are all pulling our weight. It makes me feel connected again even without going to bars, theaters, vacations, etc. I don't know why that makes all the difference for me but it does.