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Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

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If you're a bystander to violence then you are a participant in it. If you see someone getting attacked and you say you're a pacifist and you won't do anything to stop them then you're actively aiding the attacker and actively hurting the victim. The fact that you're seeing this as a two sides issue means that you're honestly not actually aware of what injustices others are going through. If you were a victim of the…

There is a whole lot to unpack there, as everyone assumes that they are innocent and are the righteous, virtuous, and correct party but the reality is both sides of any argument have flaws, a perfect example is BLM, they pack in a bunch of radical marxist and intersectional theory onto the back of racism to give it emotional charge and to label people like me who want nothing to do with that as racist. When in fact I…

Germans who didn't stand up against Hitler are no different to me than the Germans who gassed the Jews.

You can argue there is a difference but I'm not going to agree with you.

You have a very majority oriented and "safe" worldview because frankly you're not being threatened. You're a bystander letting others do violence onto us.

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

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post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a whole lot to unpack there, as everyone assumes that they are innocent and are the righteous, virtuous, and correct party but the reality is both sides of any argument have flaws, a perfect example is BLM, they pack in a bunch of radical marxist and intersectional theory onto the back of racism to give it emotional charge and to label people like me who want nothing to do with that as racist. When in fact I…

Germans who didn't stand up against Hitler are no different to me than the Germans who gassed the Jews. You can argue there is a difference but I'm not going to agree with you. You have a very majority oriented and "safe" worldview because frankly you're not being threatened. You're a bystander letting others do violence onto us.

frankly you're not being threatened

I am not being threatened because I don't see people as a threat. I see ignorance, hate, greed, anger as threats. I have background that would allow me to claim oppression based on ancestral origin, but I choose not to claim it as I am not oppressed.

Hitler would have never been able to gas the jews had people adopted a world view of non-violence and non-agression. He would have never had the support that is bread out of hate. You see you are prescribing a remedy for the symptom, when I advocate curing the disease.

You do not need to see the difference for me, that is the point one has to see it and hold it valuable for oneself.

My worldview is anything but majority oriented, people think I am a wimp, they thing I hate America, they think I am a racist, they think I am a bigot, they think I am a homosexual loving pervert and a deviant and claim that I support all these things because I don't agree with their radical world views and they can only accept by their worldview that if I do not accept theirs than I am the opposite of their position. The reality is very few people agree with my worldview, certainly not the majority as I am constantly explaining to them their doctrines of hate. But again, just like you, I can only fix it in myself and explain to other how it is harmful to us all, but after that it is up to them. Most people do not want to do that level of self reflection because it removed their justifications for feeling the way they do.

Try it, take an inventory of who you dislike and why, more importantly what you would like done with those people. Really reflect on it, do you want justice or revenge on those people. Take yourself out of the equestion, do not justify your position with your feelings or the plights of past errors that have happened to others that you believe need vindication. If you want revenge then it flows from hate. Don't expect them to put down their hate if you are unwilling to put down yours. It is really that simple. I am constantly doing this, as hate is insidious and creeps up in us naturally, it attaches to emotion and hides itself with justifications. You have to strip all that away to see it, and you have to rid it in yourself before you can expect others to do the same. The old adage still hold true, be the change in the world you want to see. It's the hard road and most certainly not the majority "safe" worldview.

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

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post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germans who didn't stand up against Hitler are no different to me than the Germans who gassed the Jews. You can argue there is a difference but I'm not going to agree with you. You have a very majority oriented and "safe" worldview because frankly you're not being threatened. You're a bystander letting others do violence onto us.

frankly you're not being threatened I am not being threatened because I don't see people as a threat. I see ignorance, hate, greed, anger as threats. I have background that would allow me to claim oppression based on ancestral origin, but I choose not to claim it as I am not oppressed. Hitler would have never been able to gas the jews had people adopted a world view of non-violence and non-agression. He would have ne…

> I am not being threatened because I don't see people as a threat.

Or because you're white :)

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

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post #292

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frankly you're not being threatened I am not being threatened because I don't see people as a threat. I see ignorance, hate, greed, anger as threats. I have background that would allow me to claim oppression based on ancestral origin, but I choose not to claim it as I am not oppressed. Hitler would have never been able to gas the jews had people adopted a world view of non-violence and non-agression. He would have ne…

> I am not being threatened because I don't see people as a threat. Or because you're white :)

Actually I am mainly Berber, North African and Middle Eastern with lesser but some Caucasian and sub Saharan African, most people assume I am an Arab, American Indian or WTF are you (I get that a lot, because most people in North American have not met many ethnic Berbers). but none of that really matters (even if I where white) if you make the assumption to value peoples worth or credibility, by their ethnicity. You have already (incorrectly) prejudged me based on my assumed race. You in this post, are refuting what I am saying not by merit, rather just saying "you are wrong because you are white". Do you see the flaw in that logic? To you whiteness = incorrectness, but you hold white people to a different standard, I assume. They are not supposed to take your and other peoples race into account? Placing your lenses of race over how you see the world distorts your vision, yet you don't like that other people do it to you, when you are guilty of the same reasoning.

More importantly rather than race, I identify myself as an enlightenment era, western liberal and that is the culture that I was raised in an identify with. Race is an artifact of eugenic era thinking.

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