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Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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What distro? I use Ubuntu because I just want an OS, not a hobby.

I'm not OP, but I tried Pop!_OS recently, and was quite pleased. It's basically just Ubuntu without the bad parts.

I hear about it often lately but what is better with Pop OS? Couldn't figure it out after testing for an hour.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Okay...so? Lenovo also announced they're going to certify some laptops for Fedora as well: https://fedoramagazine.org/coming-soon-fedora-on-lenovo-lapt... If you're suggesting that we all need to rally behind everything Canonical does because Ubuntu has the best shot of propelling Linux into the mainstream, I would say that's all the more reason to hold them accountable for decisions that the Linux community finds un…

Lenovo, in their announcement, they start by saying that they made the move because the Linux desktop stands at 2.7%. And they want in, in this 2.7% market. If the Linux desktop becomes a 5% market, or a 8% market, then it will open the floodgates to other companies offering support to desktop Linux. Source: https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-brin... What I see on HN is perpetual bitching and ant…

> Ubuntu cannot support a deb package because Chromium is huge in their dependencies and cannot provide timely updates.

Isn't it possible to ship a simple deb that handles the system part (menu, icons, etc) and a single static executable?

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Not sure if they could, but: Then they would need to review all Ubuntu packages for snap injection and overlay them. Sure that might be doable automatically but is a bit brittle. It also means the user wouldn't learn what is going on.

They are already doing a special case for Chromimum to tell the user why its empty and where to get it. Instead they could provide a working copy based on the debian deb package.

I understood it so that they are blocking snap generally instead of doing pretty package special handling.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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> It's more empowering developers to get their packages into users' hands very fast. They don't need to worry about the distribution."

And this is why it's a double edged sword. I like packages to be validated by maintainers. I don't want a new Telegram app update every day. Just now it broke and I have to wait until the developer pushes the new build to the snap repo.

It's like it's suddenly okay that everything needs to be rolling release.If I want that, I'll use arch.

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Would someone be able to tell me how to plain old turn it off? I still can't tell even after reading the docs

You can turn it off by replacing your operating system with another Linux distribution. As of 20.04 you also still have the option of removing Snap outright[1], as long as you don't need the software that is only provided via snap. Although apparently they are considering[2] adding the option to disable auto-updates. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22972661 [2] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/re-visiting-update…

Thanks, I did this on my 20.04 systems and it worked fine. Simply uninstall snapd. I lost LXD (no way I'd use this now anyway if its distributed via snap), and chromium browser (but discovered the far superior Ungoogled version anyway)

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Debian testing is basically my distro of choice: if sid is the rolling release, and stable is the LTS version, testing is roughly equivalent to non-LTS Ubuntu: the packages have been tested so you don’t usually get breakage, but they aren’t stale.

The packages are somewhat tested, but "you are participating in the development of Debian when you are tracking testing or unstable" [1]. My feeling is Debian testing is a little less stable than non-LTS Ubuntu. See, I'd like to use LXDE, and right now I use Lubuntu. I'm interested in switching to Debian, but then I read someone say Debian testing is "more stable than the name would suggest, as long as you follow a f…

You can try Fedora, switched from Ubuntu 16.04, never looked back

Re: Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap

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Mint. It's Ubuntu without the nonsense. I switched when the Unity thing happened, and haven't looked back. This news about snaps reaffirms my confidence in Mint.

Does Mint allow to safely roll-back package manager operations (i.e. without ever failing)? If not, what other distro allows this (other than Nix)? This is the main feature I'm looking for.

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