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Post by NeedMoreTea »

fastball wrote: post #19
secstate wrote: post #6

I think I might just be done with Apple. That culture of saying nothing and the surprising customers with things is like betting in Vegas. And unfortunately for Apple, the house always wins. They can repair the damage of the Mac Pro debacle with a new Mac Pro, but they haven't owned the train wreck of a keyboard on the Macbook Pro. Sure, they might be ready to hit it big on a double down on black, but in the meantime…

What about the trackpad though? I just can't get over how inferior everyone else's trackpads are.

If I had a Thinkpad I wouldn't care about the trackpad. The biggest annoyance of my 2015 Macbook pro is the lack of trackpoint.

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Post by dagw »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #291
fastball wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the trackpad though? I just can't get over how inferior everyone else's trackpads are.

If I had a Thinkpad I wouldn't care about the trackpad. The biggest annoyance of my 2015 Macbook pro is the lack of trackpoint.

Having recently gotten my first Thinkpad since IBM stopped making them, I was very disappointed that the trackpoint is nowhere near as good as I remember them being. Don't know if it me or the laptops that have changed though

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Post by valerij »

Angostura wrote: post #182
linguae wrote: post #28

I’m glad that Apple is finally updating their Macs again, but at the same time Apple has doubled-down on its refusal to sell user-serviceable, upgradeable, and expandable hardware at prices that are within reach for most customers. The laptops have soldered RAM and soldered storage. The Mac Mini and iMac Pro thankfully have DIMMs, but in order to keep the warranty, you have to visit an Apple-approved repair center to…

Actually, I'm in the middle of writing an e-mail to the Tim address at Apple, saying that if it takes the environment seriously (and I commend them on what they have done so far) they really need to take the next step, be truly 'courageous' and prioritise repairability and expandability in their forthcoming products. Apple in the last 20 pushed the boundaries in terms of sleek and slim, but I argue those are last cen…

local man writes email, changes tech giant's course of operation

seriously tho, the way i see is to boycott companies hindering repairs, and plaster the repair manifesto everywhere

EDIT: political rant below

the issue at hand is that these companies actions are dictated by their boards of investors, most of them members of the so-called 1%. and for some philanthropist exceptions those people only care about acquisition of wealth. they do not care about environmental damage, as they live in a different world than all of us, they do not have to go to work to secure their basic needs.

their very lifestyle is not threatened by global warming, social injustice or wars.

when the sea level rises they still will be residing in climate-controlled mansions, but at that time build of island further away from equator,

they will still have access to best medical treatment,

they will still have best food on their plates, even if the produce on those plates will cost 10'000$ a serving they will still have the funds.

they will still roam the seas on their super-sized yachts

they world is not in danger. ours is

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Post by callalex »

apatheticonion wrote: post #243
root_axis wrote: post #103

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Hackintosh is fun for a tinkerer but not really practical for someone that just needs to get work done. I say this as someone who dislikes macOS and has tried the hackintosh approach in an attempt to build iOS apps without having to buy a mac. You can make it work, but it's a big pain and all bets are off when an update comes down the line.

A friend of mine has used a hackintosh for a whole year to do professional, paid work. Not only was it reliable, but it was dirt cheap. Featuring a used i7 3770k and rx580, it cost $200 to build and its CPU benchmarks were on par with the macbook pro i7 2017 but much more graphically capable (which is surprisingly noticeable when doing innocuous tasks like maintaining smooth animations when switching between desktops…

There’s no way that computer costed only $200 to build unless you were reusing many parts from a previous computer.

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Post by PascLeRasc »

linguae wrote: post #28

I’m glad that Apple is finally updating their Macs again, but at the same time Apple has doubled-down on its refusal to sell user-serviceable, upgradeable, and expandable hardware at prices that are within reach for most customers. The laptops have soldered RAM and soldered storage. The Mac Mini and iMac Pro thankfully have DIMMs, but in order to keep the warranty, you have to visit an Apple-approved repair center to…

You can protest by using a Hackintosh. I'm sure Apple's aware of how big the Hackintosh community has become and I think it's part of the reason we're seeing niceties like upgradable RAM on the new Mini and iMacs.

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Post by overgard »

scarface74 wrote: post #101
overgard wrote: post #98

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I have a 4K (resolution) monitor that cost me about $400. It’s less fancy than a 6k (resolution) monitor but I’m also paying about a tenth the price sooo. Yeah. Let’s say 2 nice 4K monitors and a $3200 tower. That can easily compete with a 6000 dollar tower with a 6000 dollar monitor from apple, and I’m spending 4000 dollars instead of 12000. What exactly am I getting for that extra 8000 to make it worthwhile?

If all you need is the 4K monitor than the 6K monitor is not for you and you could use the same 4K monitor with the Mac Pro. Heck you could get the 5K LG monitor for $1200 and save $3800 dollars. Nothing is forcing you to buy the 6K monitor if you don’t need it. Isn’t that the whole purpose of buying the Mac Pro over the iMac Pro that you can mix and match based on your needs?

Yes nobody is forcing me to buy it. My point with the 6k monitor is just to show how wacky apples pricing is. For reference I also have a 5k monitor, and next to the 4K the improvement is marginal/almost imperceptible. I also have a $2500 art tablet, which is a 4K touchscreen with highly accurate color reproduction and a very sophisticated drawing pen — ie an actual professional tool. This computer and monitor apple is selling seems like a gimmick for absurdly rich people.

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Post by pier25 »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #295
linguae wrote: post #28

I’m glad that Apple is finally updating their Macs again, but at the same time Apple has doubled-down on its refusal to sell user-serviceable, upgradeable, and expandable hardware at prices that are within reach for most customers. The laptops have soldered RAM and soldered storage. The Mac Mini and iMac Pro thankfully have DIMMs, but in order to keep the warranty, you have to visit an Apple-approved repair center to…

You can protest by using a Hackintosh. I'm sure Apple's aware of how big the Hackintosh community has become and I think it's part of the reason we're seeing niceties like upgradable RAM on the new Mini and iMacs.

I seriously doubt the Hackintosh community has gotten any bigger than it was 5 tears ago. Any numbers to back that claim?

Also, the Mini and the iMacs have always had upgradeable RAM.

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Post by todd8 »

I’m not sure Apple is listening. I’ve had four Mac Pros over the years, and I’ve been waiting for years to replace my current (6-core, 32GB/512GB) 2013 Mac Pro. I won’t be buying the new Mac Pro. I’ve ordered an upgraded new Mac Mini for MacOS work instead.

I really like my low end Dell servers running Linux so I’ll probably look for a Dell workstation to get a system with Xeon cpu and ECC memory. Maybe I’ll build a Threadripper system.

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Post by pier25 »

linguae wrote: post #28

I’m glad that Apple is finally updating their Macs again, but at the same time Apple has doubled-down on its refusal to sell user-serviceable, upgradeable, and expandable hardware at prices that are within reach for most customers. The laptops have soldered RAM and soldered storage. The Mac Mini and iMac Pro thankfully have DIMMs, but in order to keep the warranty, you have to visit an Apple-approved repair center to…

I agree.

I want an upgradeable Mac tower, but I certainly don't need a Xeon workstation with ECC memory even if I can afford a Mac Pro.

I'm quite happy with my 5K iMac so far, but I'm worried about future repairs and upgrades.

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Post by scarface74 »

overgard wrote: post #296
scarface74 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all you need is the 4K monitor than the 6K monitor is not for you and you could use the same 4K monitor with the Mac Pro. Heck you could get the 5K LG monitor for $1200 and save $3800 dollars. Nothing is forcing you to buy the 6K monitor if you don’t need it. Isn’t that the whole purpose of buying the Mac Pro over the iMac Pro that you can mix and match based on your needs?

Yes nobody is forcing me to buy it. My point with the 6k monitor is just to show how wacky apples pricing is. For reference I also have a 5k monitor, and next to the 4K the improvement is marginal/almost imperceptible. I also have a $2500 art tablet, which is a 4K touchscreen with highly accurate color reproduction and a very sophisticated drawing pen — ie an actual professional tool. This computer and monitor apple…

If Apple's pricing is "wacky" for the specs of the 6K monitor, you should be able to find an equivalenty specced monitor cheaper.....
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