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Post by pzo »

akamel wrote: post #266
pzo wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy SSD with the same specs 3.2GB Read and 2.2GB Write for much cheaper. Samsung sells 970 EVO 1 TB m.2 for $300 [1] but you can even buy cheaper on amazon for less than $235. Keep i mind those +$400 was price for upgrade from 500GB to 1TB not the price of 1TB which is much much more. For example Apple charges upgrading macbook pro 13 from 128GB (silly they even offer pro machine with such small SSD) to 1TB f…

As I posted elsewhere in this thread; Lenovo charges 450$ retail and 250$ on special for a similar upgrade. https://imgur.com/a/ug87MaI

Fair enough but Lenovo doesn't solder their SSD. Nothing prevents you from buying the cheapest option and upgrading yourself, e.g. Lenovo thinkpad X1 Extreme has even 2 SDD m.2 slots. You also don't have to max out you storage when buying because you can always upgrade it in the future once you need more storage or when SSD gets even cheaper few years later. On top of that those 2 m.2 slots allows you to put disk in raid 0 or use second one with optane memory once its cheaper and worth it.

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Post by zten »

simongr3dal wrote: post #184

They can try to cram all the overheating CPU power into the thin chassis as much as they like, but it is lagging so much behind in GPU power. The top-of-the-line option, a Radeon Pro Vega 20 with 4GB of HBM2, doesn't seems like it's going to perform much better than an NVidia Geforce GTX 1050[0], and at $350 extra it's twice the cost of a standalone NVidia Geforce GTX 1050. [0]: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/…

Mobile GPUs perform absolutely miserably; no surprise given the design constraints. Using your link as a comparison, its nearest neighbors are top-of-the-line parts from nine years ago, and budget parts from four years ago.

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Post by rasfincher »

thsowers wrote: post #7

Wish there was an option to buy a 15 inch with no touch bar. I cannot find any suitable use for it on my current model, and I often hit items inadvertently due to the lack of tactile feedback

When I first got mine I found it fun to customize using BetterTouchTool, but I quickly realized it was no replacement for having hardware buttons. I miss them so much.

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Post by 781 »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #94

Apple designers need a new mantra, the age-old adage: "Form follows function." As it is, they're choosing a form ahead of time and compromising on function. The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs. The "thinness" or "sleekness" is only a nice-to-have, and only if it doesn't require compromise elsewhere.

It is "form" which made macbook THE notebook to have.

> The vast majority of users choose Macs because of the great OS and the hardware specs

Very wrong. Your average consumer can barely differentiate between MacOS/Windows. The vast majority choose it because it's the best social-status-wise. Which it became because of form. Everybody knows that only poor people have Androids/PCs.

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Post by PascLeRasc »

lostlogin wrote: post #174
frogpelt wrote: post #105

Is there a marketing person here who can help Apple come up with some good copy for the thicker laptops they need to make? They need to quit being so thin it seems.

“We listened”.

A 2016 Macbook Pro speaking at a graduation, saying "My generation has failed you".

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Post by eden_hazard »

thought_alarm wrote: post #38

The arrow keys and touchbar make that machine completely unsuitable for writing code, at least for me. My right hand needs to unconsciously lock on to the arrow keys, and that's just impossible with that layout. There's nothing to grab on to. My new iMac keyboard sits in a drawer collecting dust solely because of the arrow keys. And the butterfly mechanism is unproven and untrustworthy, I don't care how many times th…

I've been waiting a year to replace my 2015 MBP. Will probably have to wait another year now :L

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Post by awill »

microtonal wrote: post #181
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I am still using a MacBook Pro 2018 as my laptop, but do my primary work on an Intel NUC8i5BEH with Linux. I work remotely from my home, so I rarely need the laptop anymore. The NUC has the same quad core Intel i5-8259U, with double the RAM and double the SSD size at approximately a quarter of the price of MacBook Pro. If you don't have an existing screen, you can buy a good Dell HiDPI screen for ~500 Euros. The Linu…

I also work at a company heavily reliant on Microsoft Office. It makes it hard to pick any OS that isn't Windows or Mac.

Cloud apps like Google Docs, Hangouts, Slack etc.. were supposed to make the OS less important. It's too bad we're not there yet.

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Post by hamburglar »

mmartinson wrote: post #90

I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it. How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

Yes, I wrote pretty much exactly this in another reply in this thread. The main problem is that "thinner" costs a lot in terms of other features and functionality, and yet there is a whole class of users for whom "thinner" has no value whatsoever. That's me. Stop trying to make it thinner and pleasing us becomes easy.
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